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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

Once you go winter you will never go back. The tire compound on winters is much softer so on cold days the ATs turn to hockey pucks while the winters stay nice and flexable.

That said.. we have winter on my wifes CX5 and duratracs on my WK2 and they have been fairly comparable this winter because of the amount of snow. The duratracs can power though the deep snow but the winters are better on the ice.

We are currently at 180cm (almost 6 ft) of snow and got another 50cm coming tomorrow. So in total we might have 7.8 feet of snow soon... So we are past the point of snow tires now.. Only way into my place is with a tracked side by side.

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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

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I had Cooper AT3s, they were great in snow, but horrible in ice.
Interesting. I had the AT3's on my 02 and I thought they handled great on both surfaces.
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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

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I had Cooper AT3s, they were great in snow, but horrible in ice.
I understand that Cooper has a newer tire AT/W which outperforms the AT/3 in winter conditions. (snowflake rated) so I suppose comparable to, the Rotiva's .
So bascailly got 3 decent choices of AT's to comsider...GY Adventure, Cooper AT/W and Nokia Rotiva for all year use.
Or snows for winter use such as X-ice or Blizzaks
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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

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I understand that Cooper has a newer tire AT/W which outperforms the AT/3 in winter conditions. (snowflake rated) so I suppose comparable to, the Rotiva's .
So bascailly got 3 decent choices of AT's to comsider...GY Adventure, Cooper AT/W and Nokia Rotiva for all year use.
Or snows for winter use such as X-ice or Blizzaks

You forgot the new Nitto Terra Grappler G3. Amazing AT tire in the snow, quiet on the hwy, and carries a 60,000 mile warranty. They have an exact OEM size replacement. I am very impressed with my G3's so far!
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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

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I understand that Cooper has a newer tire AT/W which outperforms the AT/3 in winter conditions. (snowflake rated) so I suppose comparable to, the Rotiva's .
So bascailly got 3 decent choices of AT's to comsider...GY Adventure, Cooper AT/W and Nokia Rotiva for all year use.
Or snows for winter use such as X-ice or Blizzaks
Greetings,

For the AT tires you selected, I would go in this order: Nokian Rotiva AT, Cooper AT/W and GY Adventure. These are your standard on/off road All terrain tires.

You also have the more aggressive AT tires which have now have better winter performance: BFG KO2, Nitto EXO Grappler and the GY Duratrac. Search the forum, these tires are posted everywhere here and they have the pros and cons. Most notably they have deeper tread depths and stud options.

Exo Grappler All Weather Traction Light Truck Tire

With regards to dedicated winter tires, check out Nokian's. Nokian has a long outstanding history in this area and in Europe plus other areas they are considered the leader. One of the reason's I went with the Nokian is their reputation for winter products. In fact, Bridgestone own a stake in Nokian and some of the technology was passed over. Nokian is working right now on a retractable stud option.

Winter tires / Light Truck / SUV / Nokian Tires

As I always say, select a winter tire that best suites your driving conditions. The softer grip in cold temperatures the better the grip. It is all about the chemistry of the compound.

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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

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Both Nokians, Rotiiva A/T and WRG3 SUV, have the severe weather symbol of snowflake/mountain to qualify as a winter tire though both can be 12 month tires.
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With regards to the Nokian WRG3 SUV, from what I am reading on the latest reviews, this might be the first dedicated non-studded snow tire that be used 12 months of the year.

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Re: so, snows or good A/T replacement

Had my 5000 mile tire rotation this morning. My tire place distributes Nokian tires in this area. The manager told me that Bridgestone is not a shareholder in Nokian, but is involved with Nokian for studded tire manufacturing in Europe as they (Bridgestone) do not have that product there. What are the real facts? I don't know. Maybe someone with Bridgestone will add to this.
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Short answer- Depends.
Long answer- Much has been written on the subject on the WK2 forum here.
LOL!
Good answer!

If you have the cash, you can't beat dedicated snow tires.
Some of us prefer to spend the cash on other recreational items and so go with a good all terrain tire.
Plus it doesn't hurt living in a major metro area (and on a bus route) where the plow the heck out of the streets/freeways.

Oh, and my other 'recreational' item?
A Manitou tri-toon with an Evinrude 250HO outboard. 48mph top speed (GPS confirmed). It's so much fun embarrassing fiberglass 'speed' boats. And with the new prop this summer I should be able to reach 53-55mph.
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A Manitou tri-toon with an Evinrude 250HO outboard. 48mph top speed (GPS confirmed). It's so much fun embarrassing fiberglass 'speed' boats. And with the new prop this summer I should be able to reach 53-55mph.
Picture please!
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LOL!
Good answer!

If you have the cash, you can't beat dedicated snow tires.
Some of us prefer to spend the cash on other recreational items and so go with a good all terrain tire.
Plus it doesn't hurt living in a major metro area (and on a bus route) where the plow the heck out of the streets/freeways.

Oh, and my other 'recreational' item?
A Manitou tri-toon with an Evinrude 250HO outboard. 48mph top speed (GPS confirmed). It's so much fun embarrassing fiberglass 'speed' boats. And with the new prop this summer I should be able to reach 53-55mph.

A Man-i-who?? What in the hell is that??
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2014 23' Manitou Oasis SR SHP with Evinrude E-Tec 250HO
The SHP refers to the tri-toon hull
First one is on blocks last spring (brand new) before she was in the water.
Second one is in the water in my slip at the marina. (Notice how the rear end sits lower than the front due to the weight of the engine and the gas tank.)

Unfortunately it's hard to get good 'action' shots when the gang we run with is either running hard or parked at the beach enjoying the sun and some brews. So far, no other tri-toon on the river can touch me, and there's a lot of fiberglass speed boats that can't either.

Edit: Ugh! old ugly Michelin tires. Jeep looks much better now with the Goodyear Adventures!
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Edit: Ugh! old ugly Michelin tires. Jeep looks much better now with the Goodyear Adventures!
Greetings,

Now now, Michelin does have fine points about them.

But, on the JGC it is ............... (fill in the blanks for the Lat's) in particular for the winter season.

Enjoy your tires and more important, enjoy your pleasure craft.

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