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Old 03-26-2015, 06:02 PM
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Ya, there is a good chance rebalancing and rotating the tires will solve your problem. Good luck and let us know.

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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

First time dealer only balanced front tires. Was all good till rotation. Dealer had to rebalance all and found one of my goodyears was bad as they could not balance to spec. They replaced that bad tire.


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First time dealer only balanced front tires. Was all good till rotation. Dealer had to rebalance all and found one of my goodyears was bad as they could not balance to spec. They replaced that bad tire.

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Im not a big fan of them just putting the bad ones in the back so the steering doesnt shake all it does is delay solving the real problem until the next time you rotate. i have never spent so much money on replacing tires and bent rims on such a new vehicle before as this one with these 20s. Hopefully all taken care of for a while.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Hi silvermax04

I have a 2015 Jeep GC Altitude with
14,600 miles from around 5000 miles it stated having steering shimmy /slight shake off and on
Dealer has rotated and balanced with no change . 2 dealers and nether could duplicate issues and said its normal and vehicle is mechanically sound

I went to a discount tire for there input they think it's mechanical but
Said they could try road force balancing them ,balancing issues would typically be all the time

My question for you did your michelin's completely solve your problem and how are they doing now that you've got some miles on them

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Old 10-20-2015, 11:53 AM
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Hi silvermax04

I have a 2015 Jeep GC Altitude with
14,600 miles from around 5000 miles it stated having steering shimmy /slight shake off and on
Dealer has rotated and balanced with no change . 2 dealers and nether could duplicate issues and said its normal and vehicle is mechanically sound

I went to a discount tire for there input they think it's mechanical but
Said they could try road force balancing them ,balancing issues would typically be all the time

My question for you did your michelin's completely solve your problem and how are they doing now that you've got some miles on them

Jon


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Tech1, first off don't ever let a dealer tell you that a shaking steering wheel is normal it is not and they are lying just to get rid of you. Go to a different dealer if one tells you that. I would tend to agree with the tire shop you went to that balancing issues are not intermittent they are typically there or not there when driving at the same highway speed. Now if they are not noticeable at low speed but you have them at highway speed that can be balancing. Something else that can be going on is flat spotting of the tire, if a tire sits for a few days in one spot sometimes you can get a shaking for the first 10 miles or so which usually resolves after driving. Some tires do this more than others, prior to getting the Michelins I tried Bridgestone Alenzas these tires were terrible at flat spotting and shaking in general I took them back after about 2 months and got the Michelins. The Latitude Tour HPs handled very good, were quiet and actually better in snow than I was expecting.

To answer your question yes the Michelins fixed my shaking/balance issues, I have about 18k on the 265/50/R20 Latitude Tour HPs and all is well. Latitude Tour HPs are phasing out and being replaced by the Michelin Premier LTX which should also be a good tire. But also just recently Michelin has started making the Defender LTX M/S in the 265/50R20 this is a good tire and has good road manors and ok in snow and some off road a good all around tire and it will be my next tire. If you are strictly on road use and not too far north concerning winter weather the premier would be fine also if you want a v rated touring type tire. Defender just offers a little more mild-medium off road use and better winter driving use, though they are not a snow tire.

The other thing to check for which I hope they already did is a bent rim. I have had two bent on these 20s so far and I have not been doing anything that would have caused that other than standard pot holes, nothing huge.

I didn't like the forteras they shook and handled badly, very mushy and unstable in turns and wavy roads, some people are ok with them I was not. When I got the Michelins the tire shop owner said very few balance issues ever with Michelins and rated them as the best brand of tire to get if you are combating balance issues. He said something about how Michelin does their tire molds, laying them on their side when cooling instead of upright or something like that, I don't really remember. Also make sure whoever does your balancing does it on a road force balancer and they know how to use it. I have been to shops that had these expensive road force balancers and I go out of there with shaking tires go to another shop with one that knows what they are doing and all is well. Its not rocket science but there is a little more to it then spin the tire once and pound a weight in roughly the right place especially when you get into these larger rim sizes proper balance becomes more critical.

Good luck let me know if you have other questions I have been through the mill with tire shaking and bent rims on this jeep.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

I have had a constant battle with balancing and wheel shimmy on every vehicle I have owned with 20"+ wheels. Literally spent thousands of dollars between different tires and countless balancing including road force. I'm convinced the fundamental problem is lazy techs that do not know how to or simply do not care to properly balance large rims. Eventually on all but two of the vehicles which actually had a design flaw in the steering rack, I was able to resolve the shimmy after multiple balance attempts at different shops. My Infiniti QX56 with 22" factory rims had a shimmy on the highway from the day I bought it until the most recent balance, and then of course I decided to buy the Jeep and sell the Infiniti. I always find it amusing when a shop will tell me the balancing was off significantly on each wheel which only means at least one of the techs, current or prior, doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

I only have shaking issues when tire pressure is below 45PSI I run mine at max pressure sometimes a little over when they get hot. No shaking.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Thanks guys for all tech information, my current status is Jeep had me call Goodyear they open a case and sent me to a dealer close buy and or Discount tire to inspect for flat spotting . 2 dealers 1 blew me off completely saying that
new tires don't flat spot which is garbage the other said they are not a dealer and don't have proper gauges to check run out or flat spotting and they are not a tire dealership, more garbage they sold vehicle with them they should 100%
warranty them.

So I went to discount tire they rubbed there hands over them and said flat spotting is not the issue , so I called Jeep customer no care and bitched.They said try another Discount tire and notify Goodyear.

What a goose chase!!!

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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Wow same issue here, but that little tire flyer we all get in the owners manual is who warranties the tires, Dodge to me to go to a Goodyear shop and they road forced them and 2 came back a high number, they broke them down off rim rotated 180 degrees and still got a high number. They called their Goodyear rep and were authorized to prorate all 4 tires and they gave me $440 $110 each to purchase new ones.

This is exactly the procedure Dodge told me to follow.
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Wow same issue here, but that little tire flyer we all get in the owners manual is who warranties the tires.
This! And it's not just a Jeep thing. GM and Subaru both follow this procedure too and all have for as long as I have been driving (20+ years).
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

FYI , This was on a 2013 Durango R/T with the 265/50/20 GoodYear Fortera's 13 months old with 24k miles. first 8 or so miles in the morning she shimmied pretty good at 58-62 mph
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Thanks guys for all tech information, my current status is Jeep had me call Goodyear they open a case and sent me to a dealer close buy and or Discount tire to inspect for flat spotting . 2 dealers 1 blew me off completely saying that
new tires don't flat spot which is garbage the other said they are not a dealer and don't have proper gauges to check run out or flat spotting and they are not a tire dealership, more garbage they sold vehicle with them they should 100%
warranty them.

So I went to discount tire they rubbed there hands over them and said flat spotting is not the issue , so I called Jeep customer no care and bitched.They said try another Discount tire and notify Goodyear.

What a goose chase!!!

Jon
Well keep in mind that the flat spotting I'm talking about is a very small temperary amount and it usually resolves after driving it on the road for a few miles so by the time you have driven to a dealer it may have smoothed out. But it's enough that it can cause some shaking the first few miles after it siting a few days. Someone running their hand over it thinking they will feel it is rediculous. There is a grand cherokee TSB out on wheel vibration and the various things to look for and one of them mentioned is flat spotting so before that idiot dealer says new tires don't flat spot maybe he should read his own TSB which is geared toward brand new cars sitting on dealer lots developing flat spotting. Try looking through the TSBs for the one on wheel vibration and maybe you can help the dealer in the right direction. I never got jeep to credit me on the forteras I just paid for the new michelins on my own. All they want to do is to try and keep balancing the junk Forteras even if they eventually did get them balanced they are still a junk tire that I wanted rid of.
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