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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Discount tire found 2 of my Goodyears bad I was offered $84.33 for each tire,but haven't replaced them yet. Discount was able to rotate tire on rim 180 and get them balanced correctly so for now I'm just trying to get some more use out of them. Now I was told that if Goodyear was to give me credit for all 4 then I would have to replace with Goodyear Fortera's .

My plan is to replace with Michelin's when I do they come highly recommended
but depending on if your's is 4x4 GC your type of tire might be different.




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Discount tire found 2 of my Goodyears bad I was offered $84.33 for each tire,but haven't replaced them yet. Discount was able to rotate tire on rim 180 and get them balanced correctly so for now I'm just trying to get some more use out of them. Now I was told that if Goodyear was to give me credit for all 4 then I would have to replace with Goodyear Fortera's .

My plan is to replace with Michelin's when I do they come highly recommended
but depending on if your's is 4x4 GC your type of tire might be different.




Jon
I was able to replace all 4 Forterras with Adventure ATs...in a bigger size. GY has nothing better than the Forterras in the stock size.
I had to deal with replacing the Khumo spare with the appropriate size on my own though.
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FYI it's not just the 20" wheels...the 18" will have this issue too. I've battled it on my ORA Overland with the 18" wheels. The suspension setup is just REALLY sensitive to any imbalance or even slight out-of-round condition.
Wow, glad I went with my Goodyear Wrangler A/T Adventures.
Bought, installed, and balanced at Discount Tire and have not had a problem in almost 10K miles.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Hi Guys,

I'm back after thinking my steering wheel vibration/shake issue was resolved
after discount found heavy spots and rotated tire 180 and rebalanced. This
morning all I did was lower tire psi from 38 to 36 like the door placard recommends, get on freeway and wow steering issues are back . I checked to see if a wheel weight was thrown but no all weights still there.


Maybe time for those Michelins or something better then these Goodyears any
advice this nightmare just doesn't seem to end. I read on here that the goodyears have a hard time staying balanced , but once again I wondering
id they aren't flat spotting Discount says no problem got a-little better the more I drove on them .


Going to put psi back up to 38 and see how it goes.I'm at 15,800 miles I would consider lemon law but dealer say they could never duplicate even though back at 5000 miles they re-balanced tries so it seems to me they must have noticed somthing
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

My Continental LX20s with roadforce balancing are quite smooth. Some tires are just a chronic headache and most Goodyears seem to fall into that category.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Hi all,
My '14 overland has the 18" Michelin's installed. Purchased the Jeep with 10k miles and have put about 900 miles on it. Had some bad luck Thanksgiving night, vehicle was towed! After picking up the Jeep and driving on hwy I noticed a vibration at 80MPH. No steering wheel vibration, just a seat of the pants feeling. could this have been caused by improper towing since we have the quadra lift suspension?

I will drive it again tonight and keep it in sport mode at the 80mph mark to see if maybe its just the cylinder deactivation thing.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Counteract balancing beads could keep things balanced over life of tire. They would be very beneficial to over size tires. I've used them in motorcycle tires and a semi truck big singles tires with great results. Check them out and good luck.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Hi Guys,

Well I thought I finally solved the steering wheel shake, after discount spent so much time on and GC drove so smooth afterwards. I 'm now at 17,000 and noticed steering wheel shimmy a little it also seems to magnify the sensitivity
to bumps. I'm still running the Goodyears was hoping to get more use out of them before purchasing the Michelins which run about $1000.00 a set or at least find buy 3 get 1 free maybe from dealer.


My question is how many people really believe it's all Goodyear Forter's fault
and not maybe somthing with my GC , I also when cold and get on fwy steering still shakes bad for a bit, but discount and dealer don't believe that tire's now
days flat spot. Any help is greatly appreciated even if it's just dump those Goodyears.


Also some people have had luck with dealer checking BCM setting to make sure it's set on 20" thoughts please


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Hi Guys,

Well I thought I finally solved the steering wheel shake, after discount spent so much time on and GC drove so smooth afterwards. I 'm now at 17,000 and noticed steering wheel shimmy a little it also seems to magnify the sensitivity
to bumps. I'm still running the Goodyears was hoping to get more use out of them before purchasing the Michelins which run about $1000.00 a set or at least find buy 3 get 1 free maybe from dealer.

My question is how many people really believe it's all Goodyear Forter's fault
and not maybe somthing with my GC , I also when cold and get on fwy steering still shakes bad for a bit, but discount and dealer don't believe that tire's now
days flat spot. Any help is greatly appreciated even if it's just dump those Goodyears.

Also some people have had luck with dealer checking BCM setting to make sure it's set on 20" thoughts please

Thanks Jon
I dont believe its entirely a goodyear fortera issue. I do beileve that there is a higher incidence with the fortera as its a cheapy low quality tire and exasperates the issue and those tires have a higher incidence of being out of round.. This GC suspension setup with the 20s is very sensitive to balance being just right, and keeping those road force numbers very low. Throw in a few somewhat out of round cheap tires and a sloppy tech doing the balancing and you end up with the shakes.

Your best bet, though never guaranteed, is to put on a quality set of tires like michelins and make sure to go somewhere that will take the time and know how to do a quality road force balance with force matching. I honestly had better luck with the dealer doing the road force balance because they know the GC jeep and have seen so much of this shaking and know what it takes to get it right on these sensitive setups vs some tire shop giving them a quick spin and sending them out the door. A good road force balance with force matching takes some time and cost more but it is worth it. I paid $90 at the dealer just for the road force balance with force matching and they spent 2-3 hours working with it to get it right. It was smooth as glass no issues when that was done and had the michelins. Good Luck
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Its the tires, been through the entire issue with the Goodyears on my Durango. Just put on the new winter tires 265/50/20 Yokahama Ice Guards. first week not an issue. Durango sat over new years in the garage for 6 days. First drive to work on day 7 they had the shimmy for a good 4 miles then perfect.
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Re: Steering wheel vibration at 70MPH

Discount tire worked on it last because dealer wouldn't , and any warranty had to go though Goodyear which sent me to Discount Tire. They found 2 with heavy spots and rotated them 180 and re-balanced. All seem fine for a couple weeks but now it's slowly reverting back, dealer only tried when I first purchased it , but they never road forced them or they would have found out what Discount did.

I wondering if these heavy spots are creating all my issue, Discount said they balanced without any issues once rotated on rim 180 and shouldn't be an issue.

I guess it comes down to how much it bugs me , on whether I want to get more use or move on to Michelin's. I wish I could pick a vehicle that wasn't so dame sensitive to balance imperfections.

2012 -2014 Tacoma's 2014 bought back though lemon law after going though this crap now

2015 Jeep GC Altitude 17,500 miles and all started at 5000 miles



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Discount tire worked on it last because dealer wouldn't , and any warranty had to go though Goodyear which sent me to Discount Tire. They found 2 with heavy spots and rotated them 180 and re-balanced. All seem fine for a couple weeks but now it's slowly reverting back, dealer only tried when I first purchased it , but they never road forced them or they would have found out what Discount did.

I wondering if these heavy spots are creating all my issue, Discount said they balanced without any issues once rotated on rim 180 and shouldn't be an issue.

I guess it comes down to how much it bugs me , on whether I want to get more use or move on to Michelin's. I wish I could pick a vehicle that wasn't so dame sensitive to balance imperfections.

2012 -2014 Tacoma's 2014 bought back though lemon law after going though this crap now

2015 Jeep GC Altitude 17,500 miles and all started at 5000 miles



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Jeep is dumping the fortera for the 2016 model year, probably finally hit the tipping point that saving money putting cheap tires on became no longer worth it. The 265/50R20 will be Bridgestone and Pirelli for 2016 and I highly doubt that their mega bulk buys on Bridgestone and Pirelli was cheaper than what they could have got on more forteras. They made a good decision to improve quality of the tires they select, too bad it took so long. The Bridgestone and Pirelli models they picked are at the top of the charts at tire rack where the forteras linger towards the bottom.
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