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Old 08-04-2016, 10:18 AM
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Hey folks. New here, just bought my 1st Jeep, '16 GC Summit, V8. Wow, things have changed a bit since I last bought a vehicle. Nice ride/tech. Getting used to how it behaves, and have a suspension/handling question. I'm coming off a '06 Touareg (Porsche Suspension), and now having driven a few miles find the quadra-lift air ride a bit soft for my liking, even in the sport mode. Not so much that I dislike the vehicle mind you, but wonder, are there practical/non-warranty affecting tweaks that can be made to have it stay planted in the twists and turns any better? I do a lot of paved curves in my day to day driving. Have had it off-road once so far with very good results in the off-road 1 setting. Thanks everyone. Looking forward to the forum.

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Old 08-04-2016, 06:56 PM
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Agree try a stiffer tire. Although the ones that come on the 16 summit are highly rated and way better than what came on the 14-15 summit.
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Old 08-05-2016, 12:50 AM
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I wonder if the 2015 HA suspension will be a direct fit. Love my sport suspension.


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Better tires, stiffer sway bars.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:12 AM
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Thanks everyone for the replies. All good ideas. It came with Pirelli Scorpion Verde, can't remember "plus" or not. I had good experience with 2 sets of those on my T-Reg. I'm probably splitting hairs and should just stop being a baby It's a different vehicle and I'd imagine I'll get used to it.
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Re: Summit

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HA suspension is still really floaty, especially compared to a Touareg. Hardly any different (that I can tell) from a Summit (I test drove both) so likely not worth the money. Definitely the thing I am least happy with on my 16 HA.
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"Floaty", Yes! That is a perfect description
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:25 AM
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Maybe part of what I'm sensing is the difference between AWD and 4 WD too??
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Nope. What you're sensing is the difference in suspensions. And what you're missing (or used to) is German handling. Accept that your Summit is American, with an air suspension not aimed towards performance and a greatly different SUV.

Unfortunately there is nothing performance oriented about the air suspension, or the Summit for that matter. Also in the steering department. The turning ratio is larger, handling is less sharp and it won't ever be like the Touareg no matter what you do because the GCs bones are for off roading.

I had the same issue as you when I first got my GC. I got use to it and I do love my vehicle but it's on road manners still annoy me time to time.

There's a car review on YouTube between the Summit and Touareg. I'll have to find it. They mention exactly what you're feeling.
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Re: Summit

Wow, I was afraid someone would share the reality of it with me. I know you're completely right, damn it There's a lot to like about the Summit. I'm sure I'll figure out the nuances enough to enjoy the road. I honestly planned to get another T-Reg, right about the time Diesel Gate hit. I didn't want the 6 cylinder, and had driven the diesel a year earlier, which was incredible, but now unavailable. I honestly don't care for the exterior changes of the new ones either. I thought my '06 was much better looking. So anyway, here I am now.
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Hey I knew you needed to hear it! It's not easy to make a change but embrace the differences and you might come to love the Summit as much as your old ride.

It sounds like you already have great tires (they're new for 2016). The second easiest thing to do is the SRT or aftermarket sway bars. Someone here has done it and said it helped. That's really all I can think of to make it more "German" like.

Even though it's too late, what was your opinion on the X5(M Sport) or an SRT?

The Summit is a great choice. But this is a Jeep forum so I'm biased
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