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Swapping out rear nivomats

I have the bilstein 5100s up front set at 1.75" lift and a jk 1/2" spacer in the rear. I'm wanting to upgrade the rear nivomat shocks to the 5100s. I've heard you lose some height in the rear and I really like my stance now, which is why I haven't done it yet. For those that have swapped out the nivomats, how much height did you lose?

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Re: Swapping out rear nivomats

Im also interested in the rear replacement shock for the nivomats.

Did the rear JK 1/2" spacer lifted the rear 1/2" or did it lift it more than that?

How is the rear shock now compared to the front Bilsteins 5100? I find the rear Nivomats on the soft side
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Re: Swapping out rear nivomats

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Im also interested in the rear replacement shock for the nivomats.

Did the rear JK 1/2" spacer lifted the rear 1/2" or did it lift it more than that?

How is the rear shock now compared to the front Bilsteins 5100? I find the rear Nivomats on the soft side
It lifted the rear about 7/8". I had a 3/4" spacer back there first but it was too tall so I swapped for the 1/2". The nivomats are a little softer, you can feel the difference on banked corners for sure.
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It lifted the rear about 7/8". I had a 3/4" spacer back there first but it was too tall so I swapped for the 1/2". The nivomats are a little softer, you can feel the difference on banked corners for sure.
Are you level or do you still have the rake? I'm going to be doing the same thing, but like the look of a slight rake instead of leveling.
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Are you level or do you still have the rake? I'm going to be doing the same thing, but like the look of a slight rake instead of leveling.
The rear sits about a 3/4" higher still which is what I like.

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The rear sits about a 3/4" higher still which is what I like.
Looks great. And, you thought the 3/4 spacers were too tall even with the 5100s?

I was originally looking at the 3/4's in the back with the nivomats. Also, going with a 285, 55-65 sized tire
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Looks great. And, you thought the 3/4 spacers were too tall even with the 5100s?

I was originally looking at the 3/4's in the back with the nivomats. Also, going with a 285, 55-65 sized tire
He had the 3/4" spacer with the nivomats and it was too tall so he switched to 1/2" spacers with the nivomats
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Looks great. And, you thought the 3/4 spacers were too tall even with the 5100s?

I was originally looking at the 3/4's in the back with the nivomats. Also, going with a 285, 55-65 sized tire
With 18 inch wheels right? Haha that would be a pretty intense tire on 20s. Here's a pic with the 3/4" spacer. It only leveled out the jeep about 1/2" with this setup. So it was still about 1-1.25" difference
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Swapping out rear nivomats

I'll add my two cents in to this, only because I'm actually going to reinstall my Nivomat shocks. I've got a coil spring limited with a diesel engine, and I installed OME springs on all four corners. And initially I did 5100s upfront with the Nivomats in the rear(because I tow 4200lbs 3 seasons of the year), but this summer I swapped over to the 5100s in the rear, and I lost about 1/2 inch height - and I lost the rake as well. The 5100s in the rear have less travel through the entire length of stroke when compared to the NVs. That being said, when cornering, the 5100s do a much better job of limiting the wallowing the NVs would do.

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Re: Swapping out rear nivomats

If you want to stiffen up the rear combine the springs from the normal duty suspension and the Nivomats.


you will get 2 inch over the standard height just with that combo. I found this out when I was messing around with the load leveling shocks and springs.

The shocks came off a 2wd summit which supposedly has sport suspension based on part # description. And I used the VIN the acquire the matching springs at the time. I still have the matching springs and shocks. laying around.


STD Rear shock and Nivomat side by side
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Re: Swapping out rear nivomats

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I'll add my two cents in to this, only because I'm actually going to reinstall my Nivomat shocks. I've got a coil spring limited with a diesel engine, and I installed OME springs on all four corners. And initially I did 5100s upfront with the Nivomats in the rear(because I tow 4200lbs 3 seasons of the year), but this summer I swapped over to the 5100s in the rear, and I lost about 1/2 inch height - and I lost the rake as well. The 5100s in the rear have less travel through the entire length of stroke when compared to the NVs. That being said, when cornering, the 5100s do a much better job of limiting the wallowing the NVs would do.

275/65R18 tires on stock TrailHawk wheels
I ended up swapping my rear 1/2" spacer to a 3/4" spacer when I installed the bilsteins. It still is almost a 1/2" lower than with the nivomats and the smaller spacer. I ordered a 1" spacer and will be swapping them for the 3/4" this weekend.
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