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Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

I was planning on trying to get another year out of the stock Latitudes but a 1" bolt through my right rear tire ended that option today... so I need to quickly do some tire shopping.

Did some research and came up with these 3 options. I originally was going to go with the Firestones based on price, but Michelin has enough of a discount right now that it makes it a wash.

So I use my Jeep primarily for rainy and snowy days (my RX8 gets a workout on nice days), going on long trips, and I love driving around in the deep sand at OBX while on vacation. Every once in a while I will head up a muddy trail. I also tend to corner a bit on the aggressive side. So far I managed to get by with the Latitudes but did struggle pretty badly on the snow and sand - definately want to improve on this.

I'm trying to figure out if the LTX MS2 will be sufficient or if I should go with an AT tire.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

I went with the LTX M/S2, but I don't go out in the deep sand. I am confident they'll be good in the 10' or more of snow we get every winter.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

The M/S2 are good, but I don't think they will go through 10' of snow. If they are the same price, they should be fine for your use. I would normally recommend A/Ts (Destination are great for the money), but the will probably wear much quicker under aggressive cornering.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

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The M/S2 are good, but I don't think they will go through 10' of snow. If they are the same price, they should be fine for your use. I would normally recommend A/Ts (Destination are great for the money), but the will probably wear much quicker under aggressive cornering.
What I actually said was "10' or more of snow we get every winter", I didn't say anything about driving through 10' of snow. Our average total snowfall over the course of the entire winter is around 10'. I do often drive through a foot or more of snow, which isn't unusual for a single storm, and I'm confident the M/S2s will get me through that. The A/T is a great off-road and year around tire, and I'm sure very good in the snow, but I think I'll get better wear and smoother and quieter ride out of the M/S2s on dry pavement, which is what I drive on most of the time.
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I had the LTX MS2s on 20'', it was an awesome tire for highway and snow.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

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I was planning on trying to get another year out of the stock Latitudes but a 1" bolt through my right rear tire ended that option today... so I need to quickly do some tire shopping.

Did some research and came up with these 3 options. I originally was going to go with the Firestones based on price, but Michelin has enough of a discount right now that it makes it a wash.

So I use my Jeep primarily for rainy and snowy days (my RX8 gets a workout on nice days), going on long trips, and I love driving around in the deep sand at OBX while on vacation. Every once in a while I will head up a muddy trail. I also tend to corner a bit on the aggressive side. So far I managed to get by with the Latitudes but did struggle pretty badly on the snow and sand - definately want to improve on this.

I'm trying to figure out if the LTX MS2 will be sufficient or if I should go with an AT tire.
I've run both the MS2 and the AT2...

There is a small possibility that you could get just a small amount of better off road traction with the AT2...

However, what you will get with the AT2 is more noise, a bit more squirm, notably less tread life, and notably less traction on water, slush, etc.

The MS2 is not rated as a severe winter tire, but it has better cold water, snow, slush traction than many that are. I ran them up over Donner Pass many many times on an older ZJ.

Other than the Conti DWS it is going to be hard, if not impossible, to find a better tire for all around use than the Michelin MS2.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

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The M/S2 are good, but I don't think they will go through 10' of snow. If they are the same price, they should be fine for your use. I would normally recommend A/Ts (Destination are great for the money), but the will probably wear much quicker under aggressive cornering.
The MS2 will go thru 10 inches of snow easily, presuming the driver can.

A Cooper Weathermaster WSC would be good but a bit hard core for non-winter.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

Have you considered the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure (new tire)?

Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure Tires | Goodyear Tires
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

I've had the Destination AT and LTX2 - just put on a set of GY Adventure AT. The Destinations were squishy on my 4runner but had great traction. When I cornered the truck just felt a little loose. The Michelins were LT construction and road like tank tracks. Those tires were bullet proof. The only drawback was the tread would hold small rocks in them like nobody's business. Annoying. Still, I don't really have anything bad to say about the LTXs - worked great on and off road. The GY Wrangler Adventures I installed today have blown me away. They look amazing and are exceptionally quiet. I can't wait to get more time with them.


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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

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The Michelins were LT construction and road like tank tracks. Those tires were bullet proof.
A deep tread will always hold rocks more than a shallow tread. The width of the grooves simply determines the size of the rocks it holds. The LTXs might also be not so noisy if you pulled the rocks out. Personally, I love LTs and your description.
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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

I had the Cooper Discoverer AT3's on my 02 GC and absolutely loved them. Great traction in snow, no hydroplaning on wet roads, very good tread life and they were a lot quieter than the OEM Wranglers I had.

Besides having a tread pattern that I liked there were two other factors that drove me to buy them... price and being made in the USA. I never regretted the purchase.

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Re: Tires... Destination AT vs LTX MS2 vs LTX AT2?

Greetings,

For AT tires today, I would go with either the Nokian Rotiva AT:

Nokian Rotiiva AT - A all season tire that offers optimal performance with no compromises in terms of safety and driving comfort / Nokian Tyres

Currently I have 20k on them and they are still going strong:

Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update


OR:

The Cooper Discoverer AT3

Here is an excellent 3 part YouTube review on the AT3:

275/55/20


The Nokian is more money and has the mountain flake symbol.

Best for now.
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