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Old 12-15-2013, 07:21 AM
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Winter tires interesting article

article is at this link. Just some interesting info on winter tires and driving on non snow covered roads

Why Would You Need Winter Tires?
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Re: Winter tires interesting article

Very good article. I have Bridgestone Blizzaks on my Grand Cherokee. Would not even consider going through a winter here in central PA without snow tires.
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Re: Winter tires interesting article

That's what I have on 2012 Grand Cherokee and despite DC area real estate boy's claims they performed well in yesterdays 70 degree temps on interstate
and the back roads of Fauquier County. No problems or I have to change my boxers moments despite all the nuts out Christmas shopping

My collie girl's coat in predicting a mild winter in DC area so we will see if we get any big snows. She is pretty accurate predictor of winter temps but her coat cant predict snow fall. The snow and ice we had finally melted on Thurs.
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Re: Winter tires interesting article

Good article....I believe winter tires are a good thing….I never had the time or money (being in the military) to get a set however, I've been able to go everywhere I wanted or needed to go on the stock tires. I contribute this to the abilities of the Grand Cherokee. I remember in early '96 with my 1995 V8 Grand Cherokee Laredo (my first one) had some crappy Goodyear tires on it and I was able to go across PA 144 Snowshoe area literally pushing through 3 foot snow drifts, with the snow coming up over the hood, it snowing like crazy and I was able to make it home for a visit with my parents with no issues. The road had not been plowed and where the drifts weren’t there was 10-12 inches of fresh snow. Earlier this month I was home hunting with my Dad and there’s a road/trail that’s called “Rattlesnake” that’s very rocky and given that name for a reason as it’s so very rough kind of like a dry creek bed. The road has been closed for years as many trees have fallen across it and finally this past summer it was cleared and reopened. When I was a kid, many people bragged about taking their 4X4 down over it in the summer. Well my Dad and I came up it in “Rock mode” with snow and ice all over it with the stock Michelins with little or no issues. My Dad couldn’t believe it but being my 7th Grand Cherokee I knew its capabilities. I have no issues with the stock 18” Michelins many others don’t like them…but after that trip up Rattlesnake they’re a great tire in my book. I can only imagine the capabilities if I had winter tires or better off-road tires but I’ll run the Michelins until they are bald....someday I'll get a great set of winter tires...just my experience.
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I believe winter tires are a good thing….I never had the time or money (being in the military) to get a set however, I've been able to go everywhere I wanted or needed to go on the stock tires. I contribute this to the abilities of the Grand Cherokee. I remember in early '96 with my 1995 V8 Grand Cherokee Laredo (my first one) had some crappy Goodyear tires on it and I was able to go across PA 144 Snowshoe area literally pushing through 3 foot snow drifts, with the snow coming up over the hood, it snowing like crazy and I was able to make it home for a visit with my parents with no issues. The road had not been plowed and where the drifts weren’t there was 10-12 inches of fresh snow. Earlier this month I was home hunting with my Dad and there’s a road/trail that’s called “Rattlesnake” that’s very rocky and given that name for a reason as it’s so very rough kind of like a dry creek bed. The road has been closed for years as many trees have fallen across it and finally this past summer it was cleared and reopened. When I was a kid, many people bragged about taking their 4X4 down over it in the summer. Well my Dad and I came up it in “Rock mode” with snow and ice all over it with the stock Michelins with little or no issues. My Dad couldn’t believe it but being my 7th Grand Cherokee I knew its capabilities. I have no issues with the stock 18” Michelins many others don’t like them…but after that trip up Rattlesnake they’re a great tire in my book. I can only imagine the capabilities if I had winter tires or better off-road tires but I’ll run the Michelins until they are bald.
That's the good thing about todays vehicles. All of the electronics make any driver look good and can make pretty much any tire off road capable or capable in snow. Everyone complains about the forteras in the snow but with a few drives through the snow I have no complaints. You know they aren't a snow tire or an all terrain tire and if you treat them as such you can go pretty much anywhere at any time.
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That's the good thing about todays vehicles. All of the electronics make any driver look good and can make pretty much any tire off road capable or capable in snow. Everyone complains about the forteras in the snow but with a few drives through the snow I have no complaints. You know they aren't a snow tire or an all terrain tire and if you treat them as such you can go pretty much anywhere at any time.
You never really "need" snow tires until your life depends on it. Then, if you don't have them, it's too late.
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Re: Winter tires interesting article

I do not like the Forteras on my 2011 in the snow- worst vehicle i have ever driven. I had more faith in my 73 Cuda with snow tires on the back. My other three Jeeps had no issues in snow- factory tires and rims were fine- never missed a beat in any weather- I think it is the size and width of these current 20' tires that make the Jeep want to swap ends on slushy roads. Will be getting 18' rims and snows after new years.
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Re: Winter tires interesting article

Well I have to add my 2 cents & say that the stock Michelin Lattitudes were not great going in the snow but even worse stopping; and I tried a few different scenarios. As I have said before, I ran 2 sets of Mich.Ms2's and they were great but did not like the Lattitudes so for the first time ever bought snow tires, Hankook I Pikes and so far they are amazing. Waiting for a big one to really try them out but as some have posted the "Snows" really do make a difference! Dave
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That's the good thing about todays vehicles. All of the electronics make any driver look good and can make pretty much any tire off road capable or capable in snow. Everyone complains about the forteras in the snow but with a few drives through the snow I have no complaints. You know they aren't a snow tire or an all terrain tire and if you treat them as such you can go pretty much anywhere at any time.

AT tires will never come close to winter tires in snow, slush, or ice. Or even in the rain and on dry roads in temps below 45 degrees.

AWD and the electronic nannies are great until you exceed their capabilities and then you have very little if any margin for error. ABS is great until you spin and then its scary because its unpredictable. No ABS lock up the brakes and get into neutral and you will come to a stop in reasonably predictable manner. Spin with ABS and yeah it will happen your stopping point is totally unpredictable. Remember 4wd and AWD dont help you turn or brake. I haven't had the to play with electronic nannies yet on my GC in a controlled and safe environment. Also in deep snow ABS will cause longer stopping distances.
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I've always found that in really deep snow, all you need do is take your foot off the gas.


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