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Old 12-13-2010, 02:57 PM
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Re: Winter wheels & tires

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... do yourself a favor and put some grease or anti-seize on them. ...
Good advice. I always put a thin coat of white lithium grease on my wheels when changing from summer to winter or vice versa. The wheels pop right off at the end of season. Just have to make sure the grease/anti-seize doesn't get on the threaded studs.

BTW, I had my winter TX-5's on the highway for the first time this past weekend. The wheel and tire set-up ride really nice and are very quiet.
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:03 PM
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Just have to make sure the grease/anti-seize doesn't get on the threaded studs.
I usually grease the studs too; I don't want the lugs getting stuck. Then I torque them up to spec.

Is there some reason to not grease the studs?
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Re: Winter wheels & tires

Instead of the 20's, I installed the WK2 offroad pkg 18 inch wheels and 265 60 18 Nokian Hakka 5 SUV winters. They grip like crazy.
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I usually grease the studs too; I don't want the lugs getting stuck. Then I torque them up to spec.

Is there some reason to not grease the studs?
This is one of those religious beliefs that Schmoe has referred to. I'm agnostic.

Some guys say no lube or antiseize, clean lugs and bolts only, because a lubricant can cause higher tensile stress of a bolt at the same torque. The fear isn't that the lubed lugs may loosen, it's that they are overtightened.

Other guys, including old timers in northern climates, say anti-seize is a must to get lugs off after high moisture, salt strewn winter roads, or other corrosive enviros. They will insist they've never broken a bolt or had a seized nut despite the above fear of overtightening at a given torque with lube. Some use the lower end of torque recommendations to compensate.

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... Is there some reason to not grease the studs?
I don't know for a fact, but I've heard that the lugnuts might come loose if the studs are greased.
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The fear isn't that the lubed lugs may loosen, it's that they are overtightened.
The only time I've had a problem with this was when my click-type torque wrench went tits up and announced it by snapping off a lug. I was thinking "you know, it's gotta be getting close, if not past 90 ft-lb" right before the BANG and I was left holding the lug and stud.

Bought a beam type to replace it.

I did a quick search after asking the question, and it appears that it's one of these practices that is handed down from father to son for one reason, but might be theoretically causing an issue.

I just have a hard time thinking it would end up with an overtorque by enough to make any kind of difference- a 10% overtorque at 90 ft-lbs or so is less than you often end up with when the guys at the tire installation place zap the lugs with the impact wrench when tightening them.
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The only time I've had a problem with this was when my click-type torque wrench went tits up
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Re: Winter wheels & tires

I just ordered the wheels you have from Tire Rack but I bought the whole package with Blizzaks, sensors, all mounted and Road Force balanced.

I decided againt the black KMC wheels because they were not hub centric and the silver Sport Edition TX5 are.
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The only time I've had a problem with this was when my click-type torque wrench went tits up and announced it by snapping off a lug. I was thinking "you know, it's gotta be getting close, if not past 90 ft-lb" right before the BANG and I was left holding the lug and stud.

Bought a beam type to replace it...
What is the model of the wrench you use now?
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Red - you'll love the Blizzaks. My wife's crossover is a snowmobile with 'em.

JS - Below 1/2" or the 3/8" beam type by Craftsman is very capable. You can buy a more expensive version, but not really needed.

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What is the model of the wrench you use now?
Now it's just the basic Craftsman 1/2" drive beam type. The one that died was the click type Craftsman Microtork 1/2" drive model. I thought about spending real money for a Snap-On, but finally decided I just couldn't justify it. The few things I use a torque wrench on work fine with a beam type, and you don't ever have to worry about those going out of calibration (unless the metal has its properties changed, it will meter accurately).
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And a 22mm socket, preferably chrome so not to mark up the nuts.
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