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Worth switching to winter tires?

I have the 20" Goodyear Fortera's - I usually switch to Blizzaks on my BMW's for winter since they're summer specific tires, but not sure on the JGC since it's considered "All-season"?

Anyways worth switching over to a winter dedicated tire like Blizzak DM-V1 in the same OEM 20" size or go with a 18" tire/wheel combo for an extra $600 (need wheels and TPMS sensors)?

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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

I would say dont bother changing them. Unless you live in Canada or Alaska, a 4WD Grand Cherokee will be just fine with OEM tires. I know here in Chicago we have been having extremely mild winters with minimal snow. Your not too far away so I would imagine maybe the same can be said for you. We had maybe a few snow falls with little to no accumulation this previous winter. I know that doesn't mean the next one will be mild, but even if there is significant snow it will be just fine. I say give the OEM tires a shot and see how they are.
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

good point, i guess i kept thinking about my rear-wheel drive BMW
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

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good point, i guess i kept thinking about my rear-wheel drive BMW
I just picked up a set of used Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow's in 255/50/20 with about 80% tread left to put on my stock 20s. I had a 2002 M3 prior to the JGCO and the M3 handled all the snow and ice we had over the last couple of years with no issue on Blizzaks. I made a bad mistake thinking the All Seasons I had on it before would be fine. No Bueno. Slid sideways down a ramp leading up to the freeway.

I went back and forth on just running the Falken Rocky Mountains for the winter since going won't be a problem....but stopping and turning will be without winter tires.

I'd rather hit the road knowing that I'll be able to go, turn and stop...rather than just go. Although we don't get a ton of snow in the PNW, heading up to the mountains or on a ski trip to Whistler will be a much less ass puckering event with the winter tires on.

You could be this guy with winter tires on:


Or this guy with all seasons:
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

I came from several FWD cars with winter tires, and a Ridgeline that I just ran LTX M/S all year. I thought the GC would be fine if I switched to a better all season such as the LTX M/S2. I was wrong. It really needs snow tires for cornering and braking. The Ridgeline was better at turn-in as well as turning & accelerating (mostly FWD, weight more on the driving wheels) and the FWD cars with snow tires felt safer. Forgetting the clearance issues I would rather drive my wife's 328xi with snow tires than the GC with LTX M/S2. If you have the option, get the snows.
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

Did that GC in the 2nd video even have 4 wd?
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

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Did that GC in the 2nd video even have 4 wd?
I question that too. I've seen FWD cars do better.
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I have the 20" Goodyear Fortera's - I usually switch to Blizzaks on my BMW's for winter since they're summer specific tires, but not sure on the JGC since it's considered "All-season"?

Anyways worth switching over to a winter dedicated tire like Blizzak DM-V1 in the same OEM 20" size or go with a 18" tire/wheel combo for an extra $600 (need wheels and TPMS sensors)?
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If I lived in Ohio, I would switch to Winter Tires. All Season Tires are, well, an all season compromise.
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

Get the snows and I travel northern New Hampshire and Vermont.
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Re: Worth switching to winter tires?

The stock forteras seem to be deadly on ice. If you need some icy condition traction you should switch to another tire. Otherwise the forteras are OK.

I have two sets of wheels/tires. I put the blizzaks on and it has been the mildest winters ever. I suppose if I hadn't bothered we would have had cold and snowy extremes

As far as the videos, that STR8 has QD which is excellent in snow even with slicks.. well I exaggerate a little. Our summer/highway/all season type tire equipped QT1 WJ without any traction controls does well in all be the most snowy or icy conditions. The WK2 will do just fine on the roads. If you intend to push more than six inches on unplowed roads up hill, I'd get a tire with better winter traction.
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The stock forteras seem to be deadly on ice. If you need some icy condition traction you should switch to another tire. Otherwise the forteras are OK.

I have two sets of wheels/tires. I put the blizzaks on and it has been the mildest winters ever. I suppose if I hadn't bothered we would have had cold and snowy extremes

As far as the videos, that STR8 has QD which is excellent in snow even with slicks.. well I exaggerate a little. Our summer/highway/all season type tire equipped QT1 WJ without any traction controls does well in all be the most snowy or icy conditions. The WK2 will do just fine on the roads. If you intend to push more than six inches on unplowed roads up hill, I'd get a tire with better winter traction.
I had my Wk2 for 2 weeks got stuck in a Icestorm The Fortera's ARE Indeed Deadly i was all over the place even with snow mode. These were never ever ever! meant to be on any type of ice.
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I just picked up a set of used Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow's in 255/50/20 with about 80% tread left to put on my stock 20s. I had a 2002 M3 prior to the JGCO and the M3 handled all the snow and ice we had over the last couple of years with no issue on Blizzaks. I made a bad mistake thinking the All Seasons I had on it before would be fine. No Bueno. Slid sideways down a ramp leading up to the freeway.

I went back and forth on just running the Falken Rocky Mountains for the winter since going won't be a problem....but stopping and turning will be without winter tires.

I'd rather hit the road knowing that I'll be able to go, turn and stop...rather than just go. Although we don't get a ton of snow in the PNW, heading up to the mountains or on a ski trip to Whistler will be a much less ass puckering event with the winter tires on.

You could be this guy with winter tires on:


Or this guy with all seasons:
interesting video
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