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Old 04-25-2012, 09:15 PM
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Forteras are "so-so" rated on tirerack.com.
How is being ranked 13th out of 16 (for 20 inch tire sizes) "so-so"? That rank sounds pretty sucky to me. The ranking for 17 inch sizes be vary if the OP has a Laredo with 17's.

I've had the Fortura tires in 17 inch size on 2 previous JGC (an 04 and an 05) and an 06 Commander and hated them in all conditions.

The Yokohama Prada Spec is a great AS tire...for a minivan. We put them on our Town and Country.

The OEM 18 inch Michelins seem "ok" for now with still less than 5000 on them but they really don't belong on a "Trail Rated" vehicle nor should the be advertised as an "Off-Road" tire.

Khumo has some nice Off Road tires but I don't have any experience with them yet. A co-worker put a set in his 09 JGC and likes them. Decent aggressive looking tread, too.
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:54 PM
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

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In fact Michelin does not make 20" tires to replace the stock size according to Michelin's web site. So you can't get Michelins at this time.
Michelin does make a 20" tire for the WK2. Discount Tire offers it. http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/sea...0&rd=20&cs=265
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

Bump. I'm thinking about taking the Fortera HL's off immediately after (or before) I take delivery but I still haven't decided whether it's worth shelling out the extra money to replace them right away (so I can get top dollar for them), or just keep them until they wear out and buy something better.

There seems to be a lot of conflicting reviews on them. Some people say the Fortera HL's are great, others say they suck in wet weather... and they're not rated too highly on TireRack but perhaps that's due to a "natural" bias since the tires come stock on a lot of new vehicles, and people are predisposed to not like stock tires? Just a theory.

Anyway, does anyone have any experience with the Firestone Destination LE 2's? They're relatively new, looks like they just came out early this year, and they're currently the highest rated tire on TireRack for the 17" and 18" JGC tire sizes, above the Michelin LTX M/S2, and for a whopping $70 less per tire which makes them really appealing to me. That being said the LTX M/S2 tires have 488 reviews with a total of 6,808,980 miles reported; the Destination LE 2 tires have only 32 reviews so far with a total of 190,000 miles reported. And so as time goes on and more people review them everything could change, whether it be for the worse or for the better.

The 4th most helpful review on the LE 2's is from a 2007 Jeep Commander owner who claims that the LE 2's are far superior to the stock Fortera HL's...
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:39 PM
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

I haven't experienced any problems with my stock Fortera's, 20k miles on them now and seem to have a lot of tread left. I absolutely despise Firestone tires since I've had them in the past and had several problems with them, including zero snow traction after 1/2 tread depth. Granted that was years ago.

I suggest you keep the tires you have until you run them down at least half tread then see if you have problems, and if so you'll be surprised how quickly you can unload them on Craigslist.
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

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I haven't experienced any problems with my stock Fortera's, 20k miles on them now and seem to have a lot of tread left. I absolutely despise Firestone tires since I've had them in the past and had several problems with them, including zero snow traction after 1/2 tread depth. Granted that was years ago.

I suggest you keep the tires you have until you run them down at least half tread then see if you have problems, and if so you'll be surprised how quickly you can unload them on Craigslist.
Thanks. I might just do that. Still have another two months to decide. No problems with traction in the rain, hydroplaning, or anything like that?

Also, touching again on my bias point earlier, as a possible explanation for why the Fortera HL's, which back in 2004 were a top pick by Consumer Reports (take that to mean what you will): since they're commonly used as OE tires, and so are already on the vehicle, it could be that a great deal of people are only reviewing them after they replaced them, at which point the tires would obviously be performing differently than when new or at their "half life". Whereas when people buy new tires themselves it could be that they review them earlier in the tires' life.

But I could be totally wrong.
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Firestone Destination LE 2's.
Greetings,

I do not own them, I did own the Destination AT on my old Xterra, which was a very good on/off road tire.

Bridgestone (Firestone) has a good share in Nokian Tires from Finland. They have adapted some of Nokian's technology into Bridgestone and Firestone product lines. The only thing I would doubt right now based on Tire Rack's survey/reviews, until I see more reviews is the deep snow traction. With only 11/32 of tread depth and small shoulder blocks i can not see how the tire would work in deep snow. Otherwise, from the product description and reviews it should be an excellent highway tire.

Best for now.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:57 AM
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Thanks. I might just do that. Still have another two months to decide. No problems with traction in the rain, hydroplaning, or anything like that?

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No hydroplaning here. A week ago and I passed a dozen cars on an uphill stretch doing 60 in light rain.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:50 AM
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

The OE Forteras on my GC seem to be performing well. They have just over 12K miles on them at this point. They are very quiet and have a fantastic ride. My GC is used strictly as an on road vehicle. At this point I am extremely satisfied with the performance of the Forteras.

Unless the characteristics of the tire change dramatically as they wear and age, I would most likely replace them with Forteras.
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Re: Would you go with Fortera's again?

My WK2 came stock with Michelin's and I jsut went over 45K, so time for new shoes. I put on stock size Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus, and really like them. If price is an issue, these are a great tire IMO. I'm happy. $152/tire shipped to your door @ DTD.
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I have the 20" Goodyear Fortera HLs. I like them. They were noisy on certain roads at highway speed at first, but it's gone away. I'll buy them again. They're Goodyear and their the top of the line mid-size SUV tire for low road noise. With snow mode they are fine in the snow too.
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