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Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland- Granite

I cross shopped a Range Rover sport with the WK2 Diesel. The RRS is a fabulous car, but the bang for the buck on the WK2 compared is just crazy. A similar equipped non-supercharged RRS is some 30+ grand more than a maxed out Summit Diesel!

WK2 is the obvious choice there. Oh, and Land Rovers, especially these new ones, are completely over-rated off-road. They barely even market them as being able to go off-road anymore. Properly configured WK2 would hand it it's ass.
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Exterior: Styling is great, Paint not so much. I just got back from Cape Cod and found another chip on my baby, at this point I have to bring this up to the dealer/ Jeep customer service. I am starting to worry what she will look like in a year.
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Exterior: Styling is great, Paint not so much. I just got back from Cape Cod and found another chip on my baby, at this point I have to bring this up to the dealer/ Jeep customer service. I am starting to worry what she will look like in a year.
I have to agree with you. I don't have any chips, but I do have a fair amount of paint flaws, more than I have on any of my other vehicles.
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Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland- Granite

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I cross shopped a Range Rover sport with the WK2 Diesel. The RRS is a fabulous car, but the bang for the buck on the WK2 compared is just crazy. A similar equipped non-supercharged RRS is some 30+ grand more than a maxed out Summit Diesel!

Actually, the Summit will run you about $60,000. The SRT is about $70,000. And the RRS SC V8 is $99,000 (all fully loaded).

WK2 is the obvious choice there. Oh, and Land Rovers, especially these new ones, are completely over-rated off-road. They barely even market them as being able to go off-road anymore. Properly configured WK2 would hand it it's ass.

Sorry but you're wrong. The 2014 RRS is every bit as capable as the WK2 and may even beat it Off Road (look at the specs, read the reviews, & watch the videos on YouTube. And Land Rover is advertising it for its On AND Off road abilities.
Considering the RRS can go head-to-head with the both the SRT and regular WK2s, I'd say it is a good value for those that want, need, & can afford it.
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What a joke...the range rover sport CANNOT perform with the qd2 ql equipped wk2 offroad....you are dreaming.
I completely agree, but the RRS is still better than the SRT off-road. However, I am definitely leaning heavily towards the SRT right now for these reasons:

1. Value/Price- The JGC is an OUTSTANDING value, especially compared to the RRS. I also don't really want to spend an extra $30-$40K on RRS as compared to the JGC SRT for different (not better, just different) styling, a few more options, and a marginally nicer interior (in my opinion).
2. I already know that I will be completely satisfied with the JGC SRT due to the fact that I love my JGC Overland, while I cannot say the same for the RRS.
3. You guys might laugh at me, but I think the JGC SRT is a little more modest and definitely less of a status symbol than the RRS. That being said, neither are particularly low-key vehicles.
4. I don't think I will go off-road much, and if I do, I don't really want to be doing it in a $90-$100K vehicle, let alone one that could be outperformed by my Overland. I am also heavily considering buying a 2014 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon X (with the money I would save buying the SRT over the RRS ) that will destroy both my Overland and the RRS off-road.
5. JeepGarage has greatly enhanced my understanding and enjoyment of my Overland (and even got me a fantastic deal when buying it), and I would expect the same would go for my SRT. In addition, the SRT guys on the forum seem like a lot of fun (not that the non-SRT guys don't).
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Considering the RRS can go head-to-head with the both the SRT and regular WK2s, I'd say it is a good value for those that want, need, & can afford it.
Naw, my loaded summit Diesel is $52,000. That is a massive difference with $99,000. I'd rather have the Diesel over the SC-V8 to boot. 14/19 MPG on the RRS, holy moly. Both vehicles have the same 8-Speed ZF transmission.

I haven't been able to find any decent off-road videos for the new RRS when I was deciding which to buy. Like 99% of videos out there are simple water covered dirt paths or whatever. Basically the same stuff a rally car could get through.

Here is a decent WK2 video on stock street tires:



If you know of a new RRS off-road video that is similar, I'd love to watch it. I know a lot of guys that have owned everything from Hummer H1's to Land Rovers to seriously built Wranglers. Not saying a WK2 can compete with a modified Wrangler, but they pretty much all say Land Rovers are the bottom of the list in off-road capability.
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Naw, my loaded summit Diesel is $52,000. That is a massive difference with $99,000. I'd rather have the Diesel over the SC-V8 to boot. 14/19 MPG on the RRS, holy moly. Both vehicles have the same 8-Speed ZF transmission.

I haven't been able to find any decent off-road videos for the new RRS when I was deciding which to buy. Like 99% of videos out there are simple water covered dirt paths or whatever. Basically the same stuff a rally car could get through.

Here is a decent WK2 video on stock street tires:



If you know of a new RRS off-road video that is similar, I'd love to watch it.

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Posting videos of a vehicle going through a little muddy water and simple dirt paths for the win. Those are exactly the type of videos I was referring to. If you knew anything about off-roading, you would know that there is nothing remotely close in those videos to what the WK2 was doing in the video I posted.

But if you knew about off-roading, you wouldn't have posted those videos, so you probably don't understand what I am on about in the first place. And yes, I do wheel extensively with a modified Rubicon.


This video you posted of a grass field with a little mound of dirt in the middle as off-roading is my favorite:



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Either way would you really be doing any proper off-roading in a car worth as much as that new rrs?
My new '14 Overland is as we all know extremely capable of proper off-roading, but there's no way it will be heading up any tracks like that Trailhawk did anytime soon, and it's what, half the price of a rrs?
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Either way would you really be doing any proper off-roading in a car worth as much as that new rrs?
My new '14 Overland is as we all know extremely capable of proper off-roading, but there's no way it will be heading up any tracks like that Trailhawk did anytime soon, and it's what, half the price of a rrs?
I think that video was from Australia. You should join them.

Although, neither the Wk2 nor the RRS come with proper tires for off-road. That would make a huge change in capability.
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I think that video was from Australia. You should join them.

Although, neither the Wk2 nor the RRS come with proper tires for off-road. That would make a huge change in capability.
Haha I'm too fussy, last time I went out I had my passengers out holding back any close by bushes as to not brush sides of the new Overland
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