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Old 03-20-2011, 01:34 AM
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Re: The Summit has landed!

I gotta send out a HUGE thanks to mjw930 up in Ormond Beach, FL for pointing out and explaining the Florida "dealer fees" down here in Florida and emphasizing that dealers can't charge those with the affiliate pricing program. That they have to subtract the dealer fee from the affiliate price then add back the dealer fee since it is required to be charged here in Florida (the work around). Had it not been for mjw930 I probably would not have been prepared for this issue and would have gotten into it with the dealer which would have spoiled the new car buying experience for me a bit.

That brings me to really my only gripe and the only really shady thing the dealer tried to do...intentionally I am sure. They tried to charge me a $599.95 dealer fee...it is printed as part of the sales form. The salesperson and one of the big bosses both absolutely insisted that the dealer fee gets charged with affiliate pricing and is only not included with employee pricing...I insisted dealers can't charge a dealer fee with the affiliate pricing and had to do the work around (subtract and add back). They remained firm and the big boss went back to his office. I continued...very nicely...that the dealer fee could not be charged...and the salesperson with her feigned ignorance tried to be my advocate.

Fortunately, I had all the affiliate pricing information printed out and in hand....all the stuff from the Tread Lightly and direct from the Chrysler website on the affiliate pricing program....she looked at it and quickly found where it said that....she pretended as if she was just learning this for the first time....as if this was a learning experience for her (that was BS, but whatever). All sales people are not trained to lie...so why is it that U.S. car maker sales people seem to be???

Needless to say the big boss guy never did reappear....probably because he knew I knew he wasn't truthful. Oh well.
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:49 AM
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Re: The Summit has landed!

Dan,

Congrats my man, very nice and glad you like it. Can't wait to call my wife and find out she got ours. I'm sure you will enjoy this for a while. Don't be too much of a stranger here now that you have the ride. LOL
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:55 AM
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Re: The Summit has landed!

After getting over the dealer fee nonsense...the transaction went smoothly as we wrapped up the insurance thing...insurance company faxes authorization for the second new vehicle and all the final numbers before heading over to the finance guy who goes through it all and takes my check (I wasn't financing the purchase but the same guy handles the money).

Very nice finance guy. No pressure on the extended contracts and he presented my options very well...I simply told him I probably won't have the vehicle longer than the 3 years anyway and could always buy an extended warranty later if needed. Fair enough...moved on. Still a lot of paperwork....finishing up registration and plate fees imposed by the state. They do have on the paperwork earlier a $49 e-filing fee....not sure if that is a legit fee or not esp since e-filing probably saves the dealership a ton of paperwork too but there weren't any other doc fees so no biggie.

One thing to mention, I had the printout of the build sheet with the FFP pricing and the price they had on the sales form was higher....but I quickly realized that the new invoice form (different from the build sheets) incorporated the $75 affiliate pricing admin fee that goes to Chrysler so that was all good....although the dealership people couldn't explain why the prices were different...so I had to explain it to them...

I chatted for a while with the finance guy as he was interested in what I do and wanted some advice so I gave him some advice regarding his financial planning that was unbiased...basically tell him what I do with my own portfolio and why....I don't do that for a living so it was 100% unbiased...and he was thankful for the advice and I commented about how difficult it is to get unbiased financial planning advice since most are on commission and can be as bad as dealing with car salesman....he laughed and said it is absolutely true...and not to trust car sales people...too funny.

One of the forms that they present is a form agreeing to arbitration....I simply said no. That that wasn't a requirement to buying a vehicle...they said OK, that I didn't have to sign it. I was surprised they caved. Not that I plan on ever having a dispute with this dealership but why just voluntarily waive my legal rights?
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:05 AM
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The two guys that then handled the actual transfer were nice. They explained here is the manual on CD, etc. that I could order a paper manual, that I should get the first oil change at 3K miles and was free at the dealership.....for some reason they really made a big deal that the first oil change was free. From then on change the oil every 6K miles.

They also said use 89 octane mid-grade gas for best performance. That 87 was OK to use and won't cause engine knocking because of the multi-displacement engine. But said to NOT use high-grade/higher than 89 octane because it would cause the engine to run too hot. Also, to not tow 7200 lbs for the first 2K miles something to do with too much heat on the brakes that could cause damage...that towing say 2 jet skies during the first 2K miles was OK, just not max tow load....first I heard of this.

Anyway....I'm glad I stuck with the V8 Hemi....good power and good responsiveness.
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:14 AM
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Re: The Summit has landed!

Dan... it looks AWESOME... I have to ask... did you eat it it then? lol
I can not wait until Tuesday.
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:44 AM
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I still have a lot to go through as I was driving around....had to go visit one friend the run past home to another buddy to then go pick some other people before having my buddy go with me all the way back to the dealership to get my old Jeep (since I didn't trade it in) then back to my place to drop off a Jeep then to his place then back to my place....so was all over the place.

The RHR nav and all the voice commands are a HUGE improvement from the nav/bluetooth/voice command system in my 2005 GC. 6 years should bring big changes though. My iPhone 4 connected easily and synch address book automatically. Haven't tried to play music from my iPhone 4 yet though. The touch screen it sooo much better than the knob selection thing on my 2005. Also, the real time traffic works well.....I was coming down I-95 and it had told me to exit an earlier exit (an alt route) because of traffic conditions....I ignored the suggestion....stupid me....traffic jam that added 15+ minutes to my drive time. The navigation voice is nicer and gives very good guidance.....much better than in my 2005.

Oddly, I couldn't readily locate the fog lamp on/off switch and need to figure out what the green headlight light means ... it is very bright for just alerting you the headlights are on.....but I a guess that is what it means.

The Saddle leather is gorgeous and had great feedback on it. If you look close, it isn't a solid color like the black or beige. It is like a tighter pattern venetian plaster effect...various shades of similar colors layered. That may explain why it looks much better in person than in photos. It is also a softer my pliable leather (hope it doesn't stretch...am going to make an effort to not slide into the seat just in case). I really like the upper Saddle interior....was looking for a different interior from the standard dark grays....so will like it.

One thing I would suggest Jeep to change in the interior is the interior fabric color on the pillar posts and roof. I know Jeep use the same light grayish/beigeish in all the interiors but would look better with a more coordinating color....not a big issue, just a suggestion for improvement.

I just realized I never checked the spare tire.....LOL

Glad Jeep included the hitch opening cover....

In bright sunlight you can see the nice wood grain in the black olive wood trim....not so much in regular or low lighting conditions....more visible grain would be nicer.

Really like the pano roof....no buffering...will test some more.

Probably will want to do the sharkfin antennae once am assured it doesn't get worse reception.

Might tint the windows......

Very smooth riding.....pretty darn quiet interior but not absolutely quiet as can be found in some vehicles.
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Dan... it looks AWESOME... I have to ask... did you eat it it then? lol
I can not wait until Tuesday.
did you eat it it then??? Not sure what you're referring to?
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Oh, and the dealer had entered my name wrong.....Donald......and had said it was corrected early on......but nope....Donald on the window sticker. No biggie...but a blunder.
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I don't see what the keyless entry is all about....the remote with a key worked just fine in my 2005 and I don't see why keyless is a big feature to be keyless. The remote with key seems to just be simpler.
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Re: The Summit has landed!

Congrats Dan! No wonder you're up so early...I remember those days very well and still enjoy a morning peek into the garage every now and then, especially after I've cleaned her up as I did yesterday. Enjoy!!
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