Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread - Page 14 - Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum

Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > Members Rides-Showoff

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #157  
Old 06-23-2016, 01:55 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2015 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 600
Thanks: 96
Thanked 224 Times in 130 Posts
Rep Power: 15660
wk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenityWK2 View Post
Very cool build. You've given me a lot of ideas for my own 2014 GC Limited. Also going with an overland theme, lift, tires, armor, etc.

Currently looking at stuffing 285/70/R17 tires on Wrangler 17" wheels under the wells, after a 2" OME lift. It's a little less than 33" and a little narrower than yours. With 1.25" wheel spacers I think I might have the room for them, could go to 1.5" too.

Great thread though, read the whole thing so far, looking forward to more!

Do you know the offsets of the wrangler wheels. with only 2"of lift, that tire and that wheel/spacer combo you are askin for rubbin troubles. go see my fitment thread in wheel forum when you get that offset

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #158  
Old 06-23-2016, 02:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 183
SerenityWK2 is on a distinguished road
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

It should be 4.25" backspacing with the 1.5" wheel spacer.
Reply With Quote
  #159  
Old 06-23-2016, 02:08 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2015 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 600
Thanks: 96
Thanked 224 Times in 130 Posts
Rep Power: 15660
wk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenityWK2 View Post
It should be 4.25" backspacing with the 1.5" wheel spacer.
head over here. Offset - Backspace - ideal fitment - Calculation chart
assuming thats a 17x7.5 thats gonna be a 0 offset with your spacer. almost 33s are gonna be a mess on there. pinch weld, felt trimming/pinning, and possibly even more with just that 2".
Reply With Quote
  #160  
Old 06-23-2016, 10:44 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 183
SerenityWK2 is on a distinguished road
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Thank you for the link. Looks like I will be at 0 with these and the spacers. I don't mind folding down the pinch seam or modifying the felt.

I am looking at adding the RRO trim packers as well, for another 3/8" haha.
Reply With Quote
  #161  
Old 06-24-2016, 01:42 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2015 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 600
Thanks: 96
Thanked 224 Times in 130 Posts
Rep Power: 15660
wk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenityWK2 View Post
Thank you for the link. Looks like I will be at 0 with these and the spacers. I don't mind folding down the pinch seam or modifying the felt.

I am looking at adding the RRO trim packers as well, for another 3/8" haha.
If you do any offroadin with heavy up travel you'll be putting your tire unto the plastic trim on the fender and chew it up
Reply With Quote
  #162  
Old 06-27-2016, 07:14 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 183
SerenityWK2 is on a distinguished road
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Maybe a 275/70/R17 then...
Reply With Quote
  #163  
Old 06-27-2016, 08:24 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2015 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 600
Thanks: 96
Thanked 224 Times in 130 Posts
Rep Power: 15660
wk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenityWK2 View Post
Maybe a 275/70/R17 then...
this convo is better suited at the other thread, but ill go one more....

while only a 32.2 tire (275/70-17) you are still pushing the offset out approx 2.25" over stock location. meaning, the entire wheel/tire assembly is moving and you will have a decent amount of tire outside the fender. as mentioned, thats perfectly fine if its what you are going for, but any real offroading where you get to max compression on any of the 4 corners, the tires will go in to the fender trim. meaning the little plastic (or painted depending on model) skirt on the outside of the fender and the tire will start to wear in to it.

occasional here and there is no biggie, like big dips in the road or your once a year adventure. but it will dig in. and if you ever really nail it..could be worse. its just part of the wheel/tire game. on my 12, I had a 20x9 wheel with a 18 offset (less agressive than what you are doing) and I hit it quite a bit. but then again, im always playing. ideally, you want a higher offset...IMO
Reply With Quote
  #164  
Old 07-10-2016, 11:47 AM
DAC15's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Brisvagas, Australia
Posts: 134
Thanks: 35
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 16593
DAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond reputeDAC15 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Nice build mate. Have given me a few ideas.
__________________

2014 GRAND CHEROKEE
MY GARAGE:
BOOSTED
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DAC15 For This Useful Post:
  #165  
Old 08-01-2016, 01:19 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 370
Thanks: 36
Thanked 43 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 31936
turbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Couple of questions.

1. The Whispars you had on previously, you didn't have to do anything special to your Altitude roof rails to get them to work?

2. Earlier in the thread, you mentioned that your lift increased your clearance from 8.4" to 10" - where are you measuring that at? Is that the lowest hanging part of the Jeep underside?

3. When you have a wheel as far "up" as it will go into the wheel well, are you rubbing? Or does your lift ensure that your wheel doesn't hit the plastic fender at max "compression" ?
Reply With Quote
  #166  
Old 08-01-2016, 01:34 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2015 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 600
Thanks: 96
Thanked 224 Times in 130 Posts
Rep Power: 15660
wk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond reputewk2project has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbospartan View Post
Couple of questions.

1. The Whispars you had on previously, you didn't have to do anything special to your Altitude roof rails to get them to work?

Nope, just the (k624 I believe) adapter kit and an easy install.


2. Earlier in the thread, you mentioned that your lift increased your clearance from 8.4" to 10" - where are you measuring that at? Is that the lowest hanging part of the Jeep underside?

If I remember correctly, I measured at the lowest point which would be the lower control arms. The tires would have increased that part, not the lift. The lift up'd the clearance everywhere else of course. a 30.5 tire to a 33 nets 1.25" tho..so, hmmm?

3. When you have a wheel as far "up" as it will go into the wheel well, are you rubbing? Or does your lift ensure that your wheel doesn't hit the plastic fender at max "compression" ?

My wheel offset is what ensure I do not rub. the mid offset (30s) was what I found to be ideal. When the shocks compress and the tire begins its upward travel it naturally goes into a negative camber as well. those two things combined assured that it would go just inside the fenderlip.


Hope that helps. Im making some changes this week and will take note of new measurements while im at it.
Reply With Quote
  #167  
Old 08-01-2016, 02:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 370
Thanks: 36
Thanked 43 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 31936
turbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond reputeturbospartan has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by alludc View Post
Hope that helps. Im making some changes this week and will take note of new measurements while im at it.
Thanks.

Did you already sell your Whispbar roof rack? Do you have any photos of how it attached?

In regards to ground clearance, really the only way to add more clearance is by adding bigger wheels/tires, correct? I was always confused about the air-suspension WK2's having more ground clearance because the lower control arms aren't moving up - right? Maybe they are measuring at the "belly" or somewhere else?
Reply With Quote
  #168  
Old 08-01-2016, 02:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 183
SerenityWK2 is on a distinguished road
Re: Wk2project.com 2015 Off-road lifted Overland build thread

Those measurements are generally taken from the lowest point on the belly that's not suspension related. It does make sense and work to an extent as you should generally try to place your wheels on any high points on a trail which will eliminate the worry of hitting a control arm. So the air suspension does raise the belly a couple inches, it also gives your wheels more room to articulate.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
build

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
* Skunkd's 2015 White GC Altitude * skunkd Members Rides-Showoff 792 11-25-2016 07:41 PM
CONGRATS JeepGarage!!!! 100,000 posts in less than 6 months!!!!! Scottina06 Site News, Help, and Feedback 18 11-27-2009 07:45 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community

JeepGarage.org is in no way associated with or endorsed by FCA US LLC. Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram, Mopar and SRT are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC.