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Ahh ok, I see. Very nice plan, seems you know exactly where you need to go and how to get there! Obviously speed bumps will incur, thats have the fun though lol. And the fact that you can use it as a retirement project is nice too so no rushing or stressing too much Id say. Wake up, eat go out work when you want, take a break, call it quits whenever, very nice not having deadlines on car builds haha! And as far as the airbag system goes, are you ditching it all together? Any reasons why that will not work here, size limited? And the TCM is probably gonna be a fun little animal to tackle. Will you be using a local dealer for programming needs assuming this will probably need to be plugged in once before shes up and running, what would be really awesome was if you could get on of these somehow haha:

http://www.autokeys.cn/sdp/683335/4/...2/5972567.html


Anyway, the shedded weight and engine moving back 8" would certainly make this thing ride/handle very nicely. I can tell you the factory Jeeps even sitting higher and heavier handle very well when dropped only 3-4" even without changing weight, so I imagine this thing will be no slouch! Plus add that Hemi, this may be the fastest and most agile Willys to date!

Have you already thought about how you are going to mount the front/rear suspension on the frame? Guessing some custom fab work will be in order here Thats probably going to be some of the most fun as you can make your won custom setup and control some of the ride factors there. As always cant wait to see the progress, hurry this thing up though, I cant wait 5-10 years so you'll have to expedite the process for the benefit of the subscribers here lol j/k of course - cheers
Been spending time in the last week working out how to fit up the suspension under the Willys. The very front of the frame needs to come up 2" so the front of the Grands sub frame can bolt in underneath and have it as low as possible without hitting the underside of the Willys guard as full compression. The Willys frame rails will also need to be spread to match as well about 2.5". All the angles will be as stock as setup under the Grand.

The rear the Willys frame will have to be kicked up 4" to get full up travel and have the coil mounts under the frame at the same height as they were stock on the the Grand. All arm angles etc will also be made the same as stock. The rear of the frame will have to be pulled in quite a bit to match how it was under the Grand. Still working out how to use the Grands mounting brackets the best way.

Any further lowering will have to be done with the springs front and rear after that.
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:48 PM
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Been spending time in the last week working out how to fit up the suspension under the Willys. The very front of the frame needs to come up 2" so the front of the Grands sub frame can bolt in underneath and have it as low as possible without hitting the underside of the Willys guard as full compression. The Willys frame rails will also need to be spread to match as well about 2.5". All the angles will be as stock as setup under the Grand.

The rear the Willys frame will have to be kicked up 4" to get full up travel and have the coil mounts under the frame at the same height as they were stock on the the Grand. All arm angles etc will also be made the same as stock. The rear of the frame will have to be pulled in quite a bit to match how it was under the Grand. Still working out how to use the Grands mounting brackets the best way.

Any further lowering will have to be done with the springs front and rear after that.

Cool cool, sounds like a good plan Keep us posted!
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Got sick of pulling the airline from under the house each time I used it. So using my press I popped the bead of the tyre off the damage rim that the Harley hit and turned it into a hose reel.


Well I'm glad to say I got a chance to start on the Willys tear down for a few hours. Been spending a lot of time before that working out exactly what needed to be done to fit the suspension and drivetrain into the Willys frame.
I don't want this sitting jacked up in the air as want good road handling, but it wont be sitting on the ground either as not the theme I am going for. It must remain perfectly practical for interstate drives etc.
My limiting factor was the underside of the front guards. I can only drop the body over the suspension until the upper front wishbone, at full compression, does not hit the underside of the front guards. To get the whole Grands sub frame to sit under the frame to get that height, I have to step up the height of the front of the chassis by 2" while leaving the chassis under cab unchanged.


Who says I don't ever get the floor dirty! Was a good bucket full to clean this up.


So now have the floor and its cross members out and the fuel tank.
In the rear the frame will be kicked up 4" and will be running level with the top of the old cross members that supported the floor. I intend to drop the floor cross members in between the frame rails to keep it low in the stock position and so there is no big step up when you open the tailgate.
The 4" rise will mean I can install the rear suspension at the same relative height as it was installed stock in the Grand compared to the front. This keeps the roll centres front and rear at the same height as when installed in the Grand. All suspension points, including upper coil mounts, will be made to be at the same height as well so will be running stock control arm and panhard angles.
Any further ride height adjustments will be fine turned with different coils front and rear.
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Got the monstrosity of a rear bumper made from 8" channel cut off.


Got the front panels all off and didn't even break a single bolt! Spraying them with WD40 once a month for the last year must have paid off.


Door just came out easily too. Was ready shocked as these only have Phillips head screws holding them on which are prone to stripping.


Cabs all cleaned out and ready to be lifted off.
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Re: Grand Willys project

This is about to get really good.
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i like the hose reel HAHA
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Re: Grand Willys project

Thanks for keeping us regularly posted! I'm taking a very keen interest in this build. I'm trying to think what I would do and want to see how you eventually do it! Have you considered a non-jeep color for it?
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Not considered a non Jeep colour as like the drivetrain, like keep ing it in the family. Less likely then also to park next to another hotrod with the same colour too. But if I really see another colour that just blows me away and no Jeep colour does as well, I would be silly not to use it. Time will tell.
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Woo hoo, time to lift off the cab. Rolled the chassis and cab under my carport in front of the workshop where I still have this winch setup. It is a boat trailer winch that is though bolted to the centre carport post. The cable then runs over a pipe that it bolted between two rafters. The lifting frame was when many years ago I had a roof top tent that I made this setup for so I could simply park under it and remove or install it by myself. Just left the camper pack sitting up in the air the rest of the time.


We have lift off. Was very easy and fuss free and my wife even did all the winching by herself.


Back down on a old shopping trolley base ready to go for a ride.


Got some strange looks as we had to go up the footpath.


And around the corner to the front of the house.


Will sit in the garage where the camper trailer normally lives until I am ready to work on it.


Chassis is now ready for the big strip down. Heard it can be quite hard removing all the frame rivets and there are plenty of those holding every bracket and cross member in. Hoping grinding the head off and then using an air chisel with a punch bit will work. Got some rose welds to try and remove as well without damaging the cross member inside the rail.
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Re: Grand Willys project

Great setup you got there man! I love all these pics. Looks like your moving forward quite well
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