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Old 04-07-2012, 11:42 AM
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Dropped of the Jeep at the shop yesterday. The 6.1 gaskets didn't ship until yesterday even though I ordered them 2 day shipping on Wednesday morning. >. Hopefully they will make some progress this week as I'll be out of town and won't need the truck. I'm prepared to be without it for another week if I have to.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:56 PM
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Update: Just ordered the intake, Trinity tuner, and Hertz Hi-energy 6.5 midrange speakers.

I'll wait to order the Gibson cat back when the Jeep gets out of the garage.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:07 AM
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I wonder what kind of power all of this will net me once the intake, headers, exhaust, and tuner are in. I'm assuming at least 400hp.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:37 AM
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Re: Remmy's Build

Are you doing a full 6.1 exhaust or custom?
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:58 AM
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That may be but regardless of drilled or slotted rotors don't they both give you less surface area to work with?
"The Effect of Rotor Crossdrilling on Brake Performance" by two GM engineers published in 2006. They examined three vehicle platforms with cross-drilled rotors vs standard rotors to measure convection cooling capability, fade characteristics, wet braking, pedal feel and lining wear. The result is summarized as follows:

For the sports sedan, the coefficient of friction was 21% higher for drilled rotors than standard front rotors at 340F and higher using 15 brake snubs at 62mph. The track simulated 124 mph fade test showed 37% better brake output for drilled rotors. The drilled rotor brake temperature was about 150 degrees cooler.
For the performance car, the coefficient of friction was significantly higher for drilled rotors especially at high temperature.
Wet braking at high pedal pressure was the same for drilled or standard rotors. Wet braking is not significantly improved by drilled rotors.
Pedal force was much more consistent with drilled rotors over the brake temperature range. That is, to stop at the same deceleration rate, the driver does not need to modulate pedal pressure based on different brake temperatures. This reduces driver fatigue and improves brake response.
The authors also reported that drilled rotors prevent pad resin glazing on the rotor. So we now have solid evidence that drilled rotors have benefits over standard rotors. However, I have not found any published paper to show how slots affect brake output. So I reviewed inertial dynamometer tests using ISO NWI 26867 from Link Testing in Detroit with slotted rotors vs standard rotors. The results showed no significant difference in the coefficient of friction during the fade sections, hot stop section or pedal sensitivity portion of the test. My hypothesis is that slotted rotors do not contribute to rotor cooling whereas drilled rotors improve convection heat transfer to cool rotors and reduce brake fade. I should also point out that the pad lining wear for the slotted rotor was very severe during the test, i.e. the pad was chewed up over 20% more than the lining with stock rotors. While I believe that slots will help remove gas and debri from under the pad, I am not sure that this has a significant effect on brake torque for normal street driving. Perhaps the effect of slotted rotors is more significant on the race track, and conversely, I believe that drilled rotors are better for street and highway driving. For most drivers, I recommend drilled rotors over slotted rotors, and this conclusion is supported by the fact that Corvette, Ford GT, Porsche, Mercedes and BMW come with OEM drilled rotors.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
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I wonder what kind of power all of this will net me once the intake, headers, exhaust, and tuner are in. I'm assuming at least 400hp.
Maybe if you get the Eagle Intake. But not around 400hp. Maybe around 360-370.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:14 PM
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I wonder what kind of power all of this will net me once the intake, headers, exhaust, and tuner are in. I'm assuming at least 400hp.
that is a reasonable figure for flywheel hp, not to-the-ground hp
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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Wow. Great info dmsfun. I've already the slotted because after asking for a military discount they came back with an offer for premium slots I could NOT refuse! I wasn't even planning for premiums anyway as I needed to replace the oem rotors and wanted to go for looks.
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Drilled rotors are more prone to cracking and the situation is made worse on a 4wd where mud can pack the holes and than expand under heat. The V8 racing and many other classes here are not using drilled any more due to cracking and have switched to dimpled rotors instead in the last year or so. Personally used slotted to avoid the cracking but have gone back to plain.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:54 AM
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Look what showed up today! Too bad I cant play with it yet . Jeep is still in the shop.

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Old 04-17-2012, 07:22 AM
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Just got off the phone with the shop. Parts delivery is what killed the time but the part of the manifolds where it connects to the block are being cnc machined as I type and fitment and welding will begin tomorrow. The shop says the Jeep will be back in my possession by Friday!
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:13 PM
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Re: Remmy's Build

Rotors showed up today. Thanks R1!

First time ordering rotors and was caught by surprise how HEAVY these things are. Holy crap! They are also a hell of a lot bigger than they look in the pictures.

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