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Re: 2014 sd card capacity?

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The better solution would have been to include a CD player that ripped to the card. That way you can record while you drive, instead of having to go through this step before playing your music in the Jeep. The new system creates more work for the customer, and that is not a step forward.
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I can see people using that but you can rip all your CDs via iTunes. It is seamless, pop CD and off you go. When you done just sync with SD card. I actually prefer it that way as I can have a centralized copy on my PC and actually sync up my CD with iPhone, iPad, laptop, Apple TV and now with my Jeep via SD card (although indirectly). As far as being able to play CD directly ... don't care about it, but actually I can see people using it/missing it (like my parents).

There are actually some SD cards with WiFi build in so probably it would take long to sync up your Jeep sitting in garage/drieway via wifi.

Here is one product that has that ability: WiFi SD Cards: Eye-Fi Memory Cards: Wireless Photo and Video Uploads from your Camera to your Computer & the Web | Eye-Fi

Gosh, I love technology on this Jeep. This was a selling point for me...
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They make SSD Hard Drives. Shockproof 100%
Now that would be cutting edge. Built in SSD, everything indexed on the unit, and faster than hell. I have SSD on my desktop, and everything is instantaneous. I'd pay extra for that!
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The biggest issue with USB/SD storage is indexing. On an internal HDD, the unit can keep track of where everything it has on it when its loaded in. This makes for fast startup times, and fast use. On an external device like an SD card or USB stick, it takes time for the device to be read and indexed, and on a large drive that could be minutes. That's an intolerable amount of time to wait for my music.
I agree as far as Garmin NAV is concerned. Prefer Garmin as well.

Do we know if indexing is performed every time you start up the car or only when you switch cards? If it is only when you switch cards I don't care but every time on car startup it might be annoying... You would hope that they would think about this.
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Re: 2014 sd card capacity?

I see Uconnect is compatible with mp3 files, but I haven't been able to find anything about .wma files. Anyone else use that format and know?

Also, like to add, Best Buy has 16 gb Kingston SDHC class 4 cards on sale right now for 10 bucks with free shipping.

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Re: 2014 sd card capacity?

I've been into the CarPC scene for a long time. With failures and successes. I learned a bit about OEM car navi systems. In the past almost all car infotainment solutions were based on a Windows platform. The technology is called Windows Embedded (previously known as Windows CE) and the technology runs anything from kiosks to ATM machines to navigation systems. The operating system and the interface that we see in our cars most likely runs on Microsoft (think Microsoft BING search and the Nuance Dragon Drive voice control (do a search) - two features that are either Microsoft owned or working only on Microsoft platforms as opposed to Java/Android) and it is most likely operated from a custom sized (or even standard capacity - but small ) industrial strength SSD due to speed and multi-tasking needs (music and navigation etc).

Now, the data access for the cards is slower than an SSD hard drive, some 4 times slower BUT fast enough for digital media. I see it as a way to cut costs (price of a Gigabyte of SSD drives goes up higher much faster than for regular HDD). It is also a way to ensure reliability - in this digital media age, writing and rewriting of information will degrade SSDs performance and you cannot defrag them. Lastly, it has to do with how Microsoft Embedded actually operates - and hence a way to handle complexity. Microsoft Embedded is pretty much an image that is stored onto the disk and the system wakes up from some sort of sleep or hibernation from the same point every single time. Every time you sleep your computer (or hibernates) it wakes up from where you just left it - with MS Embedded, it is always from the same predetermined point each time. Somewhere in the UConnect there will also be a soft memory (flash card or RAM) which stores preferences, contacts and so on. Much like your phone - a hard reset just wipes out settings, not your OS.

I do not think we are missing out on anything by not having an SSD to store music on. In fact, as others have mentioned, it is advantageous. If a Class 10 SD card can handle recording HD movies, it will handle anything you throw at it in an automotive environment. I would rather have the SSD be dedicated to storing navigation and OS information and not MP3s and photos than have NAVI run off SD cards or special DVDs behind the screens like some of the high end (or cheapo) aftermarket units do.
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Re: 2014 sd card capacity?

f1anatic, thanks for the explanation, certainly helps make it all clearer.
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Maybe it was a wishful thinking but I think I did read somewhere that the new UConnect runs Linux under the hood. Can't really find the source article.
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Maybe it was a wishful thinking but I think I did read somewhere that the new UConnect runs Linux under the hood. Can't really find the source article.
Would that benefit us as Jeep owners in any way?



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Would that benefit us as Jeep owners in any way?
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Not really ... just technology FYI. On the other hand it would be nice to be able to "root" it and gain unrestricted access to OS. You know kind of like jailbreaking iPhone and installing all sorts of "unapproved" apps. If that would be doable I think Chrysler would benefit if app scene would take off coming up with all sorts of hacks.
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Not really ... just technology FYI. On the other hand it would be nice to be able to "root" it and gain unrestricted access to OS. You know kind of like jailbreaking iPhone and installing all sorts of "unapproved" apps. If that would be doable I think Chrysler would benefit if app scene would take off coming up with all sorts of hacks.
Actually I think it runs QNX..
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Re: 2014 sd card capacity?

Here is an interesting tidbit I found. If you have iPhone this sux. No tethering over bluethooth for iPhone. You need to physically connect it via USB to be able to use your data connection with apps.

Excerpt from manual:

"To get started using Via Mobile Apps, first register your Uconnect® Access
system. During registration you can establish a link to your media accounts such
as Aha, iHeartRadio, Pandora or Slacker. You can go back to update your account
at any time by visiting MoparOwnerConnect.com and selecting “Edit Profile”.
• If using an Android smartphone, the Apps will function using a Bluetooth®
connection. Pair your smartphone to the radio, log in to the Uconnect® Access
App on your smartphone, and check to make sure Via Mobile is ready to provide
data to the radio.
• If using an iPhone smartphone, log in to the Uconnect® Access App on your
smartphone, plug the iPhone into the radio using a USB cable, and check to
make sure Via Mobile is ready to provide data to the radio."
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Actually I think it runs QNX..
You are right!!! This is the same OS that the new BlackBerry is running. Still *NIX system, not Linux though ...
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