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I do like the auto correction of the MS-8. It reminds me of my Denon/Klipsch home setup using the audyessy. But I've never used JBL products.
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The MS-8 does have a LOC in it for you to sum the signals. In my setup, I come out of the Pioneer AppRadio 3 directly into the MS-8. The MS-8 does what it is designed for. The Logic 7 surround matrix processing, IMO, is far superior than the factory DSP. You do have to play with the MS-8 a little to get right. Once you establish your crossover points, the auto correction works like a charm. The better speakers make it easier for the MS-8 to do it's job.

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Watching those vids makes me rethink doing anything. Then again those vids look like they leave out a lot of info. Looked like he also ran into some issues but solved them. Ive heard of Sound Man. I watched some of his vids on putting iPads in cars when I had installed an iPad 2 in my maxima.
My SFU should be in next week. I'll be headed in to an audio shop here in Modesto to see what I can do. I just want a little rattle in the cargo area but we'll see how much $$$ it takes.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

So you guys don't think it'll make a worthwhile difference to just replace the speakers right? Is it possible to upgrade the amp and speakers but still leave the head unit?
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So you guys don't think it'll make a worthwhile difference to just replace the speakers right? Is it possible to upgrade the amp and speakers but still leave the head unit?
It's all based on if you have the 9 speaker amplified system. If you have it you have to bypass amp and a lot more work. Without the 9 speaker system you can replace just speakers but fall short running off factory radio. In my 2011 laredo I replaced HU and added my sub no problem. My 2014 limited now is a different story. With the 8.4 you have to leave radio cause it controls Hvac and other stuff.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

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Currently, the best way to get the signal from the 8.4 or 5.0 head units is to tap the signal from the amps or radio depending the system you have. For this, you need a high level convertor, the LOC as it is called. Some of the aftermarket DSP units have them built-in already. The better single component LOC do cost more, however, it is worth it for the clean the signal they give you.

Now you can install the aftermarket amps and speakers to create your desired sound system. For amps, look for the Class D, they more efficient on the JGC electrical power.

You can install new speakers if want as a temporary solution until you get your new aftermarket amps. For the 6 speaker setup look for a sensitivity rating of 90 db or better. This way you will get at least 50% or better of the efficiency of the speaker. With the premium systems, there are to many problems using the factory amp as permeant solution.

The bottom line with the sound system in the JGC to upgrade will cost you. That cost is determined upon the system you install.

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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

Hmm maybe I'll start a separate thread so I don't jack this one anymore.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

If you have the OE Alpine system, you need more than a quality LOC. That LOC has to have summing capabilities, otherwise you will not have full-range signal going to your aftermarket amps/speakers. A simple LOC will work if you are only adding a sub+amp. Once you get into replacing speakers, it gets messy.
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More technology will probably be out before I decide to do mine. I am in no rush.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

So I bit the bullet and replaced the fronts in my Overland with Focal 165KR2 components. The tweeters fit perfectly into the stock location and look schmick. Was planning to deaden the doors but the installer said they were pretty good from the factory anyway so just filled in the holes left by the 6x9 cutout. Due to the factory amps active crossover, didn't use the Focal's passive crossover (which pains me but have kept for later).

The result: I can actually hear the tweeters now and there's a clear improvement in mid-range kick. Overall a definite improvement in clarity.

The problem now is the rest of the system. I've started the journey and there's no turning back.....I know this is gonna hurt!! I plan to do it a step at a time hoping that each step is the magic bullet but I know where this is heading ($$ville)......next steps:

1. Replace rears (something in the Focal range) and deaden if needed.
2. Address subwoofer enclosure (fibreglass wrap or something)
3. Replace subwoofer driver (needs to be shallow to fit - Kicker?)
4. JBL MS-8 to take over steering logic and crossovers (install front passive crossovers)
5. Separate amp for speakers and mono amp for sub
6. Replace center dash speaker and rear surrounds.

Interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the process or recommendations for components.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

^ Yep, once you start, you'll want more. I did the same in my Ram. I replaced all dash speakers + the mids in the door. This helped some, but I was looking for a significant improvement. Thanks for the info on the tweets. It's difficult to know what drops in there. The Ram uses (3) 3.5s in the dash -- instead of 1" tweets. They all sound the same == crappy.
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Re: 2014 speaker upgrade

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So I bit the bullet and replaced the fronts in my Overland with Focal 165KR2 components. The tweeters fit perfectly into the stock location and look schmick. Was planning to deaden the doors but the installer said they were pretty good from the factory anyway so just filled in the holes left by the 6x9 cutout. Due to the factory amps active crossover, didn't use the Focal's passive crossover (which pains me but have kept for later).

The result: I can actually hear the tweeters now and there's a clear improvement in mid-range kick. Overall a definite improvement in clarity.

The problem now is the rest of the system. I've started the journey and there's no turning back.....I know this is gonna hurt!! I plan to do it a step at a time hoping that each step is the magic bullet but I know where this is heading ($$ville)......next steps:

1. Replace rears (something in the Focal range) and deaden if needed.
2. Address subwoofer enclosure (fibreglass wrap or something)
3. Replace subwoofer driver (needs to be shallow to fit - Kicker?)
4. JBL MS-8 to take over steering logic and crossovers (install front passive crossovers)
5. Separate amp for speakers and mono amp for sub
6. Replace center dash speaker and rear surrounds.

Interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the process or recommendations for components.
So you just replaced the speakers correct?
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Yes, fronts only. Rears next.

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