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Re: 430N and iPod resolution

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I think I temporarily lost my mind there - DUH!- I knew that about the damn iPod/Phone devices. I need to get my music out of my itunes onto a different medium, maybe flashdrive? I am assuming that the easiest way to manage your library and listen to tunes would be the HDD.
On one hand, all the time I have spent figuring out the various options the 430N has should be an annoyance, but on the other, I keep discovering capabilities about it that I really like. I think Jeep should have done a better job making it easier to set up with the various devices, but I have read about other vehicles having similar issues with their systems (read one about Cadillac SRX system, another complaint about Lexus), so my experiences with Jeep may actually be typical. I haven't owned a vehicle before that had this much capability on the electronics and creature comforts (to say nothing of the real JEEP capability) so I don't really have a frame of reference for my learning curve. My level of ignorance just means I get a kick out of every new feature I discover.
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Re: 430N and iPod resolution

I just learned that you can replay a song you just heard on Sirirus. The question is, how far back does it record? This would be awesome for pausing Howard Stern when I go into the battery tunnel and lose signal.

Speaking of lost signal, the Sirius signal is pretty weak and drops out way more then it did in my past car. Anyone know if that can be fixed in an update? I hope its not a hardware issue with the antenna.
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I just learned that you can replay a song you just heard on Sirirus. The question is, how far back does it record? This would be awesome for pausing Howard Stern when I go into the battery tunnel and lose signal.

Speaking of lost signal, the Sirius signal is pretty weak and drops out way more then it did in my past car. Anyone know if that can be fixed in an update? I hope its not a hardware issue with the antenna.

1. The Pause/Play/Rewind doesn't work like that. If you lose the signal you will lose what is currently playing. When you have it paused it still continues recording whatever is being broadcast to the receiver. If you don't have a signal then nothing records until the signal is restored. Think of it like a DirectTV dvr that loses a signal b/c of a rain storm.

2. Noticed this on a test drive, far worse than what I have experienced with other Sat nav radios, both aftermarket and factory installed. Others on here say it's normal.....
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I just learned that you can replay a song you just heard on Sirirus. The question is, how far back does it record? This would be awesome for pausing Howard Stern when I go into the battery tunnel and lose signal.

Speaking of lost signal, the Sirius signal is pretty weak and drops out way more then it did in my past car. Anyone know if that can be fixed in an update? I hope its not a hardware issue with the antenna.
Pretty sure it's a 30-min buffer assuming that you don't have any interruptions in the signal, as bozer mentioned. Also, when you "go back in time" to replay a tune, the display can be set to show you the upcoming songs (that is, the ones you missed or are missing as you listen to the replay).
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My level of ignorance just means I get a kick out of every new feature I discover.
No sweat, same here! I have only consulted the iPhone owner manual a few times to get guidance on the 430n. With all its foibles, it is pretty intuitive to use.
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Re: 430N and iPod resolution

Worked for me on bluetooth. Thanks for the tip. I still can't get the iphone working on usb though.
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Earlier post you referenced your "old" 60gig iPod - did you update the software on the iPod to the latest version? The only reason I ask is because my iPod didn't work until I did that. I agree about not wanting to lose the BT on the iPhone.
Is it possible to load the HDD thru the radio usb on dash from the iPod? Haven't tried to load the HDD with anything yet.
Yes, I did a software update and complete reload of all 5K songs. Nothing works. I'm thinking the USB "30 pin" can't pull audio off a 2004 iPod... I remember using iTrip back then also. So, I'm going to plan B. Girlfriend's old 16GB iPhone 3G may work in the meantime. Any luck with older 3rd/4th gen iPods- let me know. Thanks!
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Worked for me on bluetooth. Thanks for the tip. I still can't get the iphone working on usb though.
jagsfan, I finally brought up a decommissioned Gen 1 iPhone I had retired as my basement gym's music player. Plugged it into the center console USB port and flicked the AUX button on the 430n.

I got about 5 seconds of the "Reading" screen and then it began playing from the phone in fits and starts (some gaps in playback for the first few seconds). That soon cleared up and the sound was very good after that. I did notice some hissing and a few pops in one playlist, before realizing it was my "70's R&B" list. My more modern playlists sounded fine.

Was also able to use some basic voice commands to move around the phone's music. I liked the 430n's touch interface for iPod/iPhone controls.

I am now going to keep that iPhone in there as it has many playlists on it that would require burning and re-ripping (to get rid of DRM) if I were to try to load them onto the HDD. Until I get the motivation to do that, this will give me a good chance to trial this method of music playback. I have not yet tried BT playback from this old iPhone.

Noticed that the center console USB port only gets power when the key is on.

As mentioned, the iPhone is a Gen 1 original model, running version 3.1.3(7E18). I may try my iPhone4 next in the center console.
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Re: 430N and iPod resolution

Until the two devices can "talk" to each other (430N / Iphone 3GS) correctly via USB, I plan on using the HDD for now. Finished loading up around 25GB worth of tunes, that took ALL DAY to do. For those wondering, of course .mp3 format works great, but I was amazed the iTunes .m4a files worked even better! You are out of luck if you want to play .m4p files though, as they are protected content by Apple. I just wished the Voice Command worked as fluent as the USB hookup does. Oh well, maybe one day the iPhone will be able to work as a phone, AND iPod tucked neatly in the center console.

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Until the two devices can "talk" to each other (430N / Iphone 3GS) correctly via USB, I plan on using the HDD for now. Finished loading up around 25GB worth of tunes, that took ALL DAY to do. For those wondering, of course .mp3 format works great, but I was amazed the iTunes .m4a files worked even better! You are out of luck if you want to play .m4p files though, as they are protected content by Apple. I just wished the Voice Command worked as fluent as the USB hookup does. Oh well, maybe one day the iPhone will be able to work as a phone, AND iPod tucked neatly in the center console.

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For those wondering, of course .mp3 format works great, but I was amazed the iTunes .m4a files worked even better!
Curious if you mean .m4a sounds better or loads faster? I have been using .m4a exclusively because it always seemed to me to be a more "Mac-like" format, but would be interested in your observations.
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Curious if you mean .m4a sounds better or loads faster? I have been using .m4a exclusively because it always seemed to me to be a more "Mac-like" format, but would be interested in your observations.
I think the sound of .m4a files are clearer and 'brighter' vs. .mp3 files I've downloaded. Granted, the majority of these files are from back in the ol' Napster days, so a CD ripped from my collection as .m4a to me, sounds better. The all day event was due to a 4GB USB transfer limit on the stick and weeding through which files were good to go.
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