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430N (RHB) to 730N (RHR) conversion question

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#1 ·
I waited to order my Overland until the Tech Package was available and when I got the call that I could order the Tech package, I was told that I could no longer order the 730N which I had also wanted. The dealer did not know what the 430N would look like on the Overland, but after going through this forum, it appears the main features I wanted on my Nav/Media Center are not available on the 430N - namely Sirius Traffic (showing the traffic on the nav map) and the ability to use voice commands change the radio stations and program the nav. As I understand it, with the 430N you must stop and put the car in park to program a new destination in the nav (I DO assume you can press the DETOUR button on the fly, correct??) and you must use the touch screen to change radio stations. I am not happy but have no other choice since that is the ONLY nav available with today's Overlands.

Here is my question: once the 730N (RHR) becomes available, how easy would it be for me to have my dealer change out the 430N for the new 730N? I understand I would have to buy the new 730N through the parts department - and that won't be cheap - but are there any reasons that the switch can't be done (mountings, power, connections, etc)?

Thank you!

Overland 4x4 Hemi
Blackberry Pearl
Off Road Adventure II
Tech Package
Ordered: Sep 18 / Expected Delivery: Early Dec
 
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#42 · (Edited)
Hello all,

I am not a Jeep owner but I have just completed a similar conversion on a 2011 Dodge Ram 1500. Well, almost completed. I installed the RHR and the microphone conversion cable and everything works great. My problem is that the USB port (in the RAM it is in the glove box) is not connected. I ordered the same USB jumper cable that the OP quoted in his post but the problem is that it is a male to male connector and I need a male to female connector. When you unplug the USB from the factory Uconnect it is a male end and you need a male end for the back of the RHR. So I am in need of a male to female USB jumper cable.

The reason I posted is that if you are getting a connection between your phone and the USB then they did connect the USB jumper cable. The "chipmunks" music you are hearing could be a incompatibility problem between your iphone and the RHR. I was having the same issue with my RHB unit. I could eliminate the problem if my iphone was locked when I played music through the RHB, for some reason when the iphone was on any other screen I had the "chipmunks" music. Good luck.
 
#45 ·
That usb jumper cable is the right one for your Ram.It is longer than the one that comes from the factory. You have to disconnect it at the usb port and it replaces what is already there. It doesn't extend the cable at the HFM,it replaces it.
 
#46 ·
I'll have to visit a dealer and try it out on a factory-installed 730N and see if it's the same just like you say Andrew. It seems like I've seen people say that you get an iPod/iPhone port on the Lock Pick aftermarket attachment. I wonder if I ought to just go that route.

If I connect my iPhone/iPod to the USB port right on the bottom front right of the radio, it works perfectly ... just not as clean and tucked away like the center console would be. For what it's worth, before I had the 430N changed over to the 730N, the center console USB port worked perfectly as well.
 
#50 ·
Ok guys...got my RHR in today and I really need help with part numbers for the dual band, combo antenna and the USB port in the harm rest. I looked through the parts manual but can't determine which part numbers work. The GPS part # provided above does not work...different connection and it is for the older RER. Thanks for any help.
 
#53 ·
Dealer installed the 68068278AA mini USB cord today and now my 730N remote USB port is now fully working. The old cable that was attached plugged in to something just to the left of the steering column (maybe old UConnect box?). Instead, the new cable goes straight from the back of the stereo receiver unit and connects with the remote USB port via a connection at the right-front of the center console (passenger side).

Note: The tech had to plug in with the Jeep's computer and reset something after switching the cable before it would start working.

So happy it all works now!
 
#55 ·
For some of the prices posted, nobody wants to go aftermarket? I was reading a crutchfield mag and some seem like they can run with some stock features. Nowadays they make a lot of harnesses to link up with car features. I havent done aftermarket radios in AWHILE. Just thought it might be worth a call to them, always good customer service from them and see what they can do.
 
#56 ·
Back in the day, the connections on an aftermarket radio were power, antenna, and speakers. For the WK2, there's a connection to the CAN bus using proprietary networking protocols to integrate with the other electronics; for example, NAV prompts show up in the EPIC. I'd be surprised if Crutchfield had anything that could drop in and support all the features of the OEM units. If you call them, please post your findings.
 
#57 ·
Back in the day, the connections on an aftermarket radio were power, antenna, and speakers. For the WK2, there's a connection to the CAN bus using proprietary networking protocols to integrate with the other electronics; for example, NAV prompts show up in the EPIC. I'd be surprised if Crutchfield had anything that could drop in and support all the features of the OEM units. If you call them, please post your findings.
There are a few companies that sell boxes that interprete "some" factory functions. PAC makes a chrysler specific box for the CAN BUS that does a pretty decent job. I was considering aftermarket but either didn't like the cluttered GUI or the lag in most of the ones I tried. I found the RHR on ebay for about the same price so jumped on it. I have it in my Wrangler but need a the USB port cable and also the combo antenna. I didn't know that the RHR will not show maps with out the antenna. I tried using the GPS antenna from my old RER but the connections were slightly different. Apparently the combo antenna uses the same yellow connection as the Sirius antenna.

I bit the bullet and ordered the WK2 Sirius antenna...I'm hoping that it works. Thanks again for the info.
 
#61 ·
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm looking to swap my 430N for a 730N. I have a 2011 Overland with the Smart Beam headlights. Looking at the above it looks like this mirror is different than the standard auto-dimming mirror which uses the 8221166 mirror cable. Is that correct? If so, is there a new cable I should get instead?
 
#62 ·
I Installed the radio the wire and am now ready for the dealer to starscan it. Can anyone tell me what exactly the dealership needs to do In order for my phone to start working with my new setup. I just want to be able to tell them exactly what they need to do so I don't get charged alot
 
#63 ·
There might be a solution for Overland owners with Smart Beam but I have not been able to confirm it. The part number for the harness is 82212906. I saw it on the Mopar Supercenter site. The description leads me to believe that this will solve the microphone issue.

For anyone that's interested I've officially decided to throw in the towel on trying to make the swap so I have a new 730N RHR, the 82211666 cable kit (if you have a microphone mirror w/o Smart Beam) and the USB cable 68068278AA available. I know I'll be taking a big loss but have decided to stay with the RHB.
 
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