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Old 11-10-2010, 05:31 PM
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

P.A.C. makes all the wiring adapters you will need.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:56 PM
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

Moosehead, what I dont understand is, why would you want t remove something in your Jeep already, that you yet havent heard or saw??

I find it pointless, you go spending that type of money on your Jeep, to replace all these components that are already run using Alpine equipment???
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

Thanks for the PAC referral Djeazie.

WC, as noted above, you may be right, replacing these head units may not be feasible. That said, I have test driven both the WK2's and the RER enough to suspect there could be a better aftermarket receiver alternative, and there's enough feeback on this forum alone to suggest the same. It's not unusual for OEM systems to be upgraded.

Feels like auto systems now try to do too much with Navi, music, phone/voice, DVD, touchscreens, etc leaving execution a bit lacking in one or more arenas. Our cell phones have more than enough NAV capabilities today. Ironically, full auto systems integration may make it more challenging to replace them. YMMV.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

I was quoted $900 + shipping for the 430 from a Mopar dealer on ebay. The radio retails on Mopar's website for $1080. I can give you their ID if you are interested. You can try and find a used 430 (that is what I am currently working on), but make sure it is from a 2011 Grand Cherokee because the mounting scheme is different.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

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Thanks for the PAC referral Djeazie.

WC, as noted above, you may be right, replacing these head units may not be feasible. That said, I have test driven both the WK2's and the RER enough to suspect there could be a better aftermarket receiver alternative, and there's enough feeback on this forum alone to suggest the same. It's not unusual for OEM systems to be upgraded.

Feels like auto systems now try to do too much with Navi, music, phone/voice, DVD, touchscreens, etc leaving execution a bit lacking in one or more arenas. Our cell phones have more than enough NAV capabilities today. Ironically, full auto systems integration may make it more challenging to replace them. YMMV.

You ABSOLUTELY can change out the head unit, it's not that difficult in the least. The Pioneer AVIC-Z120 is a double din unit (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) & it fits perfectly. There is a ton of misinformation out there about what you can & can't do. I had zero issues getting my 130 swapped out w/the Pioneer Nav & no issues w/the steering wheel controls working either. The installer didn't want to use the PAC SWI device for that, though. He used something else that he says would automatically map the buttons. I don't know the model of the device but it hasn't given me any trouble whatsoever.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

are there any advantages to swapping out the newer (January build) stock 730 nav to an after-market one? I saw that the avic-120 has an sd card slot and can play movies, but I'd be more worried about the nav performance
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

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...to replace all these components that are already run using Alpine equipment???
I would suggest that you not confuse the Alpine label here with the actual quality of their aftermarket equipment. They've been supplying OEM equipment for years to the European stuff, and the headunits aren't much better than any other stock equipment.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

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are there any advantages to swapping out the newer (January build) stock 730 nav to an after-market one?
No, not really. The aftermarket units have a couple of minor extra features and flashier interfaces. That's about it...the 730 is a pretty capable unit with excellent gyro driven dead reckoning navigation.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

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You ABSOLUTELY can change out the head unit, it's not that difficult in the least. The Pioneer AVIC-Z120 is a double din unit (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) & it fits perfectly. There is a ton of misinformation out there about what you can & can't do. I had zero issues getting my 130 swapped out w/the Pioneer Nav & no issues w/the steering wheel controls working either. The installer didn't want to use the PAC SWI device for that, though. He used something else that he says would automatically map the buttons. I don't know the model of the device but it hasn't given me any trouble whatsoever.
That's encouraging. brogan, if you can find out what your installer used and some pics and detailed info about your install it would be immensely helpful to the thread.
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No, not really. The aftermarket units have a couple of minor extra features and flashier interfaces. That's about it...the 730 is a pretty capable unit with excellent gyro driven dead reckoning navigation.
Hopefully ^ this is correct for the new units. See Milous' update note in the WK2 subforums on the existing units for iPhone interface and other flash improvements. Also see JoeSchmoe's other recent stereo thread.

All that said, the jury is out whether aftermarket head units or stock provide a better solution. Same for speakers/subs/amps even if they are Alpine OEM.

For instance, I'm theoretically willing to give up stock EVIC readout for nav in exchange for perhaps better audio quality, controls, input interfaces, and screen resolution in a multimedia (MM) receiver. Steering wheel controls look like a non-issue.

I'm also willing to spend a few hundred bucks for rewiring and install, or take the time to DIY, as every indication suggests the stock MM head units are as or well more expensive than aftermarket.

YMMV.
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

I can't wait until January to order, so looks like I'm going to be getting one with the 430n. I'm going to swap it out though, probably with the new SONY 770bt nav that just came out. Anyone else thinking of putting this one into their WK2?
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Re: Aftermarket Stereos for WK2

Now that I've had the vehicle for a week, I'm officially a fan of the 730N. I'd call the audio, NAV, screen, interface, phone, and voice command all in the very good if not great categories. It would be hard to justify trading it unless you were having troubles or were a true audio buff and wanted to ground and pound.

The only minor wish list item would be additional adjustment ability to the audio speakers. The stock equalizer settings allow decent sound stage adjustment, and basic bass, treble, and midrage adjustments.

I'll eventually pop the door and sub panels out of curiosity to see what the OEM Alpine speakers look like, but they also sound pretty damn good.

My bad, Jeep continues to exceed expectations on this rig.
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