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The rear channels on the Alpine in the WK2 produce crappy frequencies, A speaker upgrade will make some difference possibly, but think It's a losing battle due to what's being fed in. Anyways, just trying to find out if anyone knows the wiring colors and polarity or a quick way to figure out if my phase is correct.

Lime/Neon green wire is what I'm using as positive right now on some 6.5" sony's I picked up on clearance somewhere, sound marginally better than stock, not even sure if it's worth spending higher end on the rears (like $150 area vs lets say $80.00) But...the front upgrade made a big difference.


Anyone try or has opinion on Focal Performance PS 165V ?? for rears

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Re: Alpine rear speakers/wiring

Greetings,

In all truth, some here have upgraded the speakers and felt their was a difference. While others, thought it was a waste of money.

IMHO, it not worth it because at lease for me, you can not change the time delays or frequency points of the crossover settings. The factory DSP is set for the OE speakers which is just a basic setting for the general public.

If you want to spend some money, check out the Audiofog speakers. It is more money but not that expensive as compared to the hi end speakers. At leas with Audiofrog speakers for the rear the speakers are full range and have better crossover range that works with surround sound systems.

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Like an Audiofrog GS60?
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Re: Alpine rear speakers/wiring

I will say that my Infinity speakers (Kappa 62.11i) are a very different sound. Much greater frequency response and much more tilted towards the high end and airier sounding. I definitely think it is great and well worth the cash.
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Re: Alpine rear speakers/wiring

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Like an Audiofrog GS60?
Greetings,

The GS60 for the rear door as the driver by it's self will give you the low mid range reinforcement that will go up to 7k hertz (cycles). By adding the tweeter will give you the hi-end frequencies. However, in a surround sound system for car audio you really do not need to max that out for rears. Any where around 15-18k is ideal. Mine is around 16k. The GG25 for the rear pillars is a nice match.
The down side to Audiofrog is that are not that efficient and depending how loud and type of music you play, an external amp will be needed.

You might feel comfortable listening to these speakers with out any fine tuning.

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The rear channels on the Alpine in the WK2 produce crappy frequencies, A speaker upgrade will make some difference possibly, but think It's a losing battle due to what's being fed in. Anyways, just trying to find out if anyone knows the wiring colors and polarity or a quick way to figure out if my phase is correct.
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Thanks for the wiring!,
One thing I did today was to disable the tweeter on the center channel. takes lots of high freq-pain away!, another small improvement.
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Thanks for the wiring!,
One thing I did today was to disable the tweeter on the center channel. takes lots of high freq-pain away!, another small improvement.
Greetings,

Gland you did it.

My center is set for 300- 12k cycles. I get a smooth blend between the left and right channels.

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Thanks for the wiring!,
One thing I did today was to disable the tweeter on the center channel. takes lots of high freq-pain away!, another small improvement.

Can you explain what you mean by "disable the tweeter"

I can only assume that you either cut the leads going to the tweeter on an aftermarket speaker? Or did you just eliminate the center all together?


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Re: Alpine rear speakers/wiring

Cut the wires to the tweeter!, indeed aftermarket. Better than stock, with tweeter disabled better again.

I've tried few different speakers in the back but always end up going back to stock. almost seems the rears are really in tune with the head unit.
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Cut the wires to the tweeter!, indeed aftermarket. Better than stock, with tweeter disabled better again.

I've tried few different speakers in the back but always end up going back to stock. almost seems the rears are really in tune with the head unit.

I still have my Polk DB and harness laying around, maybe I'll give that a shot over the weekend. That thing was very overpowering for my taste.

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Alpine rear speakers/wiring

I can actually hear the tweeters in the door blending in somewhat properly now with the low. bought some silk tweeters too, this weekend project.

All this offcourse with a proper bandwith channel on xm, bluetooth or cd. I think chanel 53 produces some of the best sound on XM

This whole thing started when I stopped at an audio specialty store looking for a permanent solution(removing head unit, but keeping fuctionality) the guy there recomended to chop the high of the center or cut all together.

Anyways, there's some stuff coming out soon that will have ability to keep all wk2 functionality up front.

I'm suspecting sky's the limit but guessing it will run 2-3k when you replace head unit and rest.
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