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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

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Would you mind installing and running CPU-Z and posting the SOC, Device, System, and Sensors tabs? Sorry, I realize I am being needy. Thanks.

Check that. I got the info I needed. Here are the specs for inquiring minds.
  • Master Frequency 4*1.4Ghz
  • Master Chip Model RK3188T
  • Memory 1G
  • Flash memory capacity Nand flash 8G
  • Video output format Analog RGB, Digital 888, compatible 565,CVBS
  • Operating System Android 4.4.4
  • Sync signal Composite sync signal, separate sync signal
  • Video output resolution 480X234 to 1920X1080
  • Video output effect of mediation Support display position vertical and horizontal
  • Audio output left and right channel stereo output, support for digital signal output,bluetooth
  • GPS receiver HV5820
  • GPS antenna 3V active antenna
  • GPS receiving antenna protection Antenna short circuit protection
  • WIFI Stable WIFI, support hot point and interactive functions
  • BT support transferring files
  • Memory card type supports SD/MMC/SDHC (supports SDHC cards to 4GB~64GB), support u disk up to 4T USB socket USB OTG 2.0
  • Supported map engine type All current Android version of the map
Just for confirmation
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Interesting, but us non-GMO humans have no understanding of this. I just hope you guys will be available when the aliens from outer space invade earth. We are depending on you.
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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

awesome post, thinking about doing exactly this. Any chance you could show the about device page ? Do you know if they plan to support later android versions ? L, M or N ? I feel like they'd need slightly better hardware (more ram) and Kitkat isn' the best looking. Also is the device rootable ? Running xposed would be really cool.
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awesome post, thinking about doing exactly this. Any chance you could show the about device page ? Do you know if they plan to support later android versions ? L, M or N ? I feel like they'd need slightly better hardware (more ram) and Kitkat isn' the best looking. Also is the device rootable ? Running xposed would be really cool.
I got a response from a tech there and they stated for now there are no plans to go past 4.4 which was a bummer. I was hoping to at least run lolli to get some material design. At least Rockchip is used in a lot of non mainstream devices so it's likely not the worst to deal with Rom wise. Doubtful anyone would even do anything with the source even if it was made available.

We can only hope.
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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

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I got a response from a tech there and they stated for now there are no plans to go past 4.4 which was a bummer. I was hoping to at least run lolli to get some material design. At least Rockchip is used in a lot of non mainstream devices so it's likely not the worst to deal with Rom wise. Doubtful anyone would even do anything with the source even if it was made available.

We can only hope.
Feared that'd be the case. Maybe root + xposed, for system level UI changes (remove all he ugly holo icons) will be an option and that with nova launcher will suffice.
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Feared that'd be the case. Maybe root + xposed, for system level UI changes (remove all he ugly holo icons) will be an option and that with nova launcher will suffice.
Dig it. Being as old as it is root might not even be hard. Either way I may pull the trigger soon as I need a new project, just not sure what i want to do yet but glad someone did it right and integrated touch screen instead of just T'ed off of video end of the harness.
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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

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Dig it. Being as old as it is root might not even be hard. Either way I may pull the trigger soon as I need a new project, just not sure what i want to do yet but glad someone did it right and integrated touch screen instead of just T'ed off of video end of the harness.
Just got an email back from the dev and he said it comes with root and as stated above it looks to be sticking the kitkat but he wasn't very helpful.

Looks like the newest TWRP version I can find is 2.8.5.0 located here

I wish this was a little more 'tinker' friendly. TWRP will mean backups of the partitions + being able to flash zips In the case of an xposed module preventing boot which would be nice to have for the device. Though if something goes wrong I'm not exactly sure how we're supposed to boot this to recovery mode since it won't boot to OS and will be locked behind the display.

Why would someone (CarPerformance) go to so much trouble to open up such a closed system (Uconnect) only to then close up the system they've decided to add... It should ship with root + cwm/twrp and a button that triggers boot to recovery.

Anyway from some quick googling it looks like you can short a connector to control recovery. That headunit use the RK3188 so I'll assume it's the same for the RK3188T.

I really just want xposed for Gravity Box but not sure I want to be the first one to do all this on a $750 AU unit.
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awesome post, thinking about doing exactly this. Any chance you could show the about device page ? Do you know if they plan to support later android versions ? L, M or N ? I feel like they'd need slightly better hardware (more ram) and Kitkat isn' the best looking. Also is the device rootable ? Running xposed would be really cool.
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Dig it. Being as old as it is root might not even be hard. Either way I may pull the trigger soon as I need a new project, just not sure what i want to do yet but glad someone did it right and integrated touch screen instead of just T'ed off of video end of the harness.
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You can root it if you want - I was only able to get Kingroot to work for this and tried several other options. One word if caution, if you root, don't try to disable the calibration app to avoid having to press ESC each start. I did this and it turns out the app also remaps the pixels to a landscape format. So, without it, pressing the screen activates an app 90 degrees away. It was a bit tricky to get this re-enabled in this situation. The device also comes with a "Screen" app which helps you adjust the geometry of the screen so you can see the edges from the driver's viewing angle.
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Thanks! Good to see it listed as the rk3188 and not the rk3188T. I wonder where @techvudu pulled the previous details from?

I made a post stating the following but it needs approval (assuming because it contained links and I'm a new user)

I emailed the Dev and he said it comes with root out of the box, odd that he had to kingroot it but I guess we can always SuperSU ME to add supersu and remove kingroot, did you check the android developer options to see if he had a toggle for it? Perhaps he just meant it was rootable, his english wasn't great.

I managed to find a version of twrp that's compatible with this SoC and it look's like you can enter it if you can't boot by jumping a circuit so that's promising (Might even be able to rig something to the board to act as a recovery reboot switch)

Xposed without cwm/twrp is possible but I'd be too scared to soft brick the device by enabling an incompatible module and would like to have a fail safe option. I think Gravity Box + Nova would suffice at hiding the ugliness of Kitkat.

I also wonder if this is Viper4Android compatible. Considering it's a head unit modification and It'll mainly be used for audio It'd be nice to have it.

From some quick googling it looks like this RK3188 is relatively well supported so everything should work just fine. Guess someone has to be the first to flash twrp though.

There seems to be a rom out there for the SoC with 5.1.1 so maybe it's not out of the question with a little tinkering and the right tools.
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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

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Thanks! Good to see it listed as the rk3188 and not the rk3188T. I wonder where @techvudu pulled the previous details from?

I made a post stating the following but it needs approval (assuming because it contained links and I'm a new user)

I emailed the Dev and he said it comes with root out of the box, odd that he had to kingroot it but I guess we can always SuperSU ME to add supersu and remove kingroot, did you check the android developer options to see if he had a toggle for it? Perhaps he just meant it was rootable, his english wasn't great.

I managed to find a version of twrp that's compatible with this SoC and it look's like you can enter it if you can't boot by jumping a circuit so that's promising (Might even be able to rig something to the board to act as a recovery reboot switch)

Xposed without cwm/twrp is possible but I'd be too scared to soft brick the device by enabling an incompatible module and would like to have a fail safe option. I think Gravity Box + Nova would suffice at hiding the ugliness of Kitkat.

I also wonder if this is Viper4Android compatible. Considering it's a head unit modification and It'll mainly be used for audio It'd be nice to have it.

From some quick googling it looks like this RK3188 is relatively well supported so everything should work just fine. Guess someone has to be the first to flash twrp though.

There seems to be a rom out there for the SoC with 5.1.1 so maybe it's not out of the question with a little tinkering and the right tools.
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Thanks! Good to see it listed as the rk3188 and not the rk3188T. I wonder where @techvudu pulled the previous details from?
Well, it's good to know there are other geeks lurking. Sounds like most of the hard work is done as far as root which to me really makes this useful. From what I found this chipset is a standard for non mainstream Android TV players and similar, which is fine with me. As stated, likely not hard to find some decent compatible roms/kernels out there.

As for the info I posted, I got it right from Daniel at Carperformance (that's what the vcf said his name was). It was in a text document attached to an email that said there is no update past 4.4. That's about it.

Edit: attached the snapshot of the file..

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Re: Android on Uconnect 8.4

I've had a thought(be warned, these are dangerous), from what I can see the only custom hardware is his PCB/daughterboard that sits between the Jeep's headunit motherboard and the android rk3188/t box.

Now according to the review from the Jeep Cherokee Club I'm beginning to think that any of the modifications required to detect the 4 second touch and rotate the screen are handled by the PCB/daughterboard or possibly an app on android and are not baked into the rom. This also explains why we're not getting a newer rom, he doesn't seem to be an android chef.
Why I believe this is due to the following.

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To access Android, you touch the Uconnect anywhere on the screen for 4 seconds. You will then see a screen calibration app running. You calibrate the first time (touch the crosshairs) and when done, press the ESC button on the screen. You do this only once. After that, you will still need to press the ESC to get to the Android home screen each time you power up.
So I'll assume the 4 second touch is handled by the PCB/daughterboard and when it gets the 4 second input, it knows to switch displays by hijacking the feed.

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One word of caution, if you root, don't try to disable the calibration app to avoid having to press ESC each start. I did this and it turns out the app also remaps the pixels to a landscape format. So, without it, pressing the screen activates an app 90 degrees away. It was a bit tricky to get this re-enabled in this situation. The device also comes with a "Screen" app which helps you adjust the geometry of the screen so you can see the edges from the driver's viewing angle.
The 90 degree turn could easily be achieved if he baked the rom himself, instead it's being handled by an app.

So once again, assuming the PCB/daughterboard handles the switching of the displays and It's only an app that rotates the android display 90 degrees which can easily be extracted and sideloaded onto any android device. I'm inclined to believe we'd be able to replace/upgrade the android box system whenever we required.

This makes the system a whole lot more worthwhile to me as It means it's open to being upgraded, you just need to find an android box with the same inputs and outputs (LVDS, touch input & gps etc) which there seems to be multiple on alibaba.

It'd be lovely if we could only buy his custom PCB/daughterboard
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