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Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

Seeking input from JGers on best practices for loading up the hard drive on a 430n (or 730n if applicable). Goal is to optimize use of media center's GUI during search and playback and to utilize any other secret sauce that these features provide.

So far I have been creating folders and using naming convention "[artist name]-[album name]", copying as many as will fit on a thumb drive, and loading via front panel USB port on head unit. I am not sure if the Gracenote DB obviates the need for my naming approach, or if it would recognize and correctly group songs by album/artist/title if I merely dumped loose songs onto the jump drive (not that I would ever do that as it would violate every fiber of my nature).

Also considering the use of a much larger portable drive even if I have to connect it to external power during the transfer process.

Any tips, strategies, how-to's would be appreciated. TIA.
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

I am interested in hearing what method people are using as well. I attempted using a WD My Passport (250GB) and it would not recognize the drive. There is a small chance this is drive related so I am going to try reformatting and trying again.

Will the 430n rip mp3's from a DVD?
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

Flash drives are generally formatted in FAT or FAT32 whereas your WD Passport drive is most likely NTFS unless you specifically formatted it as FAT/FAT32. I'd give that a shot before you think the drive is just not compatible.

I had the same thing happen on my a/v receiver in my house, didn't work until I changed it to FAT32.

Sorry I don't have any input on the original question of filename formatting, I'm not sure what the 430n displays things as I don't have one.

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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

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I am interested in hearing what method people are using as well. I attempted using a WD My Passport (250GB) and it would not recognize the drive. There is a small chance this is drive related so I am going to try reformatting and trying again.

Will the 430n rip mp3's from a DVD?
604, I have that same drive but have not tried it yet. I assume you had it powered externally before connecting it to the USB port on the head unit via cable? I'm almost positive that a drive of that size would not get enough juice from the head unit port to power up, but could be wrong.

Not sure about your 2nd question.
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

So forgetful today!

Just in case you didn't know, you will lose all the data on the drive if you format it so back up the data elsewhere and then format it and copy the data back.
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

I use a program called Double Twist (http://www.doubletwist.com/). Reason is all my music is in iTunes and this program can sync that same music to almost any device (so long as they are not DRM protected). So I have it set to sync certain playlists, then I insert a flash drive and the music gets copied there. The program automatically organizes folders by Artist then Album. From there you could either play directly off the flash drive or copy it to the 430n hard drive.

This works in another car I own with no problem, can't test it on the 430n for another 10 days (hopefully!!!!!)
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Flash drives are generally formatted in FAT or FAT32 whereas your WD Passport drive is most likely NTFS unless you specifically formatted it as FAT/FAT32. I'd give that a shot before you think the drive is just not compatible.
I'm having one of those "why didn't I think of that" moments - completely forgot it was NTFS - Thank you!

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I'm almost positive that a drive of that size would not get enough juice from the head unit port to power up, but could be wrong.
As far as I can remember the drive did spin-up just with the usb but I will have to double check that. I'll keep you posted on if the FAT32 formatting allows the drive to be recognized.
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Just in case you didn't know, you will lose all the data on the drive if you format it so back up the data elsewhere and then format it and copy the data back.
Yep, that's why I'll probably stick to the biggest thumb drive I can find; too much hassle to wipe/reformat a drive for this job (IMO).
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

All of my non-drmed music is just ripped using the standard rip software from media player ony Win 7 machine.

I then copied all of the folders as is to a thumb drive, inserted it into front USB port and copied over using the onscreen menus. So far I have copied about 15gb of music onto the hd
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

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I use a program called Double Twist (http://www.doubletwist.com/).
Sounds interesting but I am an iPhone4-usin' Mac driver. May look around for a similar product for OSX/iOS.

My initial question is more platform-neutral and has to do with pre-load prep and organization (if any) on the music files so as to get the most out of the 430n's interface. Thx.
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Re: Best practices for loading music on 430n HDD?

DoubleTwist for Mac: http://download.cnet.com/DoubleTwist...-10962366.html
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Thank you, Haloed One, but isn't that still for use w/Android phones only? My apologies if not. Anyway, I have a solution for syncing my phone's music with my other devices. It's a matter of adopting the best process for organizing my tunes for migration to the 430n. That may or may not involve 3rd party s'ware solutions. I was hoping to KISS and just see what others were doing vis-a-vis naming and organizing files.
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