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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

Thanks everyone for your feedback. What a great forum. Now I just need to get off the fence and make a decision.
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:05 PM
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Another 430N supporter here - I love mine!
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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

430N seems to work quite well... we actually preferred the Garmin nav just because we're familiar with them... we have a Nuvi portable we use in our sports car and WJ, and we were able to transfer our POIs easily to the 430N.

Sort of ironic... when we first talked to the dealer, we were told the 730 was the only nav option on the Overlands, and it was not possible to get the Garmin. In the end, we waited for the Saddle interior, which coincidentally seems to have pushed us into the Garmin window of builds.

These things can make you crazy if you obsess too much about them, IMHO.
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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

Wait or you always wonder if you should have waited and always be a little bit of "what could I have had?".
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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

Few quick questions for those of you with the 430n:

Am I correct in my understanding that you can plug an iPod into the center consol and voice command the music on the device?

If so, does the iPod charge when connected in the center consol?

Does the Garmin NAV have the "quasi" dead reckoning that the hand helds have? For instance when you enter a tunnel, does it keep your speed an heading for about 30 seconds or so?

Anyone know if the upcoming 430n update will fix iPhone 4 issues?
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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

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430N seems to work quite well... we actually preferred the Garmin nav just because we're familiar with them... we have a Nuvi portable we use in our sports car and WJ, and we were able to transfer our POIs easily to the 430N.

Sort of ironic... when we first talked to the dealer, we were told the 730 was the only nav option on the Overlands, and it was not possible to get the Garmin. In the end, we waited for the Saddle interior, which coincidentally seems to have pushed us into the Garmin window of builds.

These things can make you crazy if you obsess too much about them, IMHO.
Hello! Joe from WI here. I'm WK4ME from the forum. I will be picking up my GC Overland tomorrow and it has the 430N Garmin based GPS. I specifically ordered it this way as I have an updated, but few year old Garmin Nuvi 660 model. I have saved about 100 or so "favorites" which I think you were calling POI's in your post today. My question is, you mentioned you were able to "transfer the POI's" from your Garmin portable to your 430N. Could you please tell me how you did that? My Garmin has the USB port, as well as a "flash drive". When I first heard that Jeep was going to put the Garmin based GPS in the GC, it essentially was the main reason I went to look at them. While talking to the folks at the dealership, I asked about transferring the favorites from my Nuvi to the 430N, and was told it could not be done. Don't know if that's true or not, but you are the first person I've seen mention it.

If you would not mind, could you please take a moment and tell me how you did yours? Thanks, I'll definitely owe you one!

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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

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My question is, you mentioned you were able to "transfer the POI's" from your Garmin portable to your 430N. Could you please tell me how you did that?

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Forum member TestDummy posted the steps once you have a POI import file ("POI.gpi" file) created. My humble contribution is how to get to that point (I use a Mac...the procedure should be pretty much the same for a PC...let me know if you need more explicit instructions and I'll try to repro on a PC):

a) Connect your existing Garmin portable to a USB port on your computer... it should mount just like a flash drive. It may take a minute to show up.

b) Navigate to the Garmin folder, then to the GPX folder within, and copy the file named "Current.gpx" to anyplace convenient on your hard drive.

c) Launch the Garmin POI Loader application (free from the Garmin website). Use the loader selecting "Load new custom POIs onto your device or computer", and navigate to the folder where you copied the Current.gpx file.

d) For the location or device to store the custom POIs to in the loader, select "Save to computer..." and navigate to a convenient location on your hard drive. For a "Destination File Name" specify "POI", which will cause a file named "POI.gpi" to be written.

NOTE: The name matters!

Now, just follow the Garmin instructions and posted by TestDummy starting at Step 4 (you have just done steps 1-3 with the instructions above):

Step 1 - Download a POI database file from the web or create your own
Step 2 – Using POI Loader from Garmin (www.garmin.com/products/poiloader) create the POI.gpi file from the database file you have gotten from the web or created
Step 3 – Save the POI.gpi file to your computer as a file

Step 4 – You will now need a USB Stick to load the custom POI to so that it can be loaded to the vehicle system. Create a folder on a blank USB stick entitled Garmin, example; if your USB Stick is listed as drive D by your computer, then the folder would be D:\Garmin
Step 5 – Create a folder within the Garmin folder named Poi, example; if your USB Stick is listed as drive D by your computer, then the folder would be D:\Garmin\Poi
Step 6 – Copy the POI.gpi file to the Garmin\Poi folder on the USB Stick, example; if your USB Stick is listed as drive D by your computer, then the file location would be D:\Garmin\Poi\POI.gpi
Step 7 – Insert the USB Stick to the radio and the Garmin navigation application will display a message that the custom POIs are ready to be copied, select yes.
Step 8 – To view the custom POI list select WhereTo, Extras, Custom POIs and you will see the list. (You may have to scroll down to see Extras!)


The final trick is that after you select a custom POI, you get a screen that has a big GO button, but just above that button is a Save button. Pressing Save adds that location to your favorites. I'm just adding mine one at a time as I use them... of course you could sit there and cycle through them all one by one.

Enjoy!
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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

For those of you who think the 430N looks cartoonish, try switching to the night color setting and then bumping the brigtness all the way up. Looks 100x better than the stock "crayola" colors IMO
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Very cool! Thanks, I'll be giving this a try tomorrow afternoon. Appreciate the effort here!!!!!

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Re: Do you like your 430N or should I custom order?

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Few quick questions for those of you with the 430n:

Am I correct in my understanding that you can plug an iPod into the center consol and voice command the music on the device?

If so, does the iPod charge when connected in the center consol?

Does the Garmin NAV have the "quasi" dead reckoning that the hand helds have? For instance when you enter a tunnel, does it keep your speed an heading for about 30 seconds or so?

Anyone know if the upcoming 430n update will fix iPhone 4 issues?
With respect to the first two questions: yes, you can plug it into the center console and you can voice command the music. And yes, it does charge while connected in the center console.

I don't know about the iPhone issue.

With respect to dead reckoning, I have seen two opinions on these forums and the owners manual doesn't address it. However, I do go through a tunnel regularly that takes about 2 minutes to traverse. While in the tunnel, my 430 nav does track and it shows the vehicle in the correct location when I emerge. This is also the case when there is stop and go traffic in the tunnel and my speed is not constant. So it appears to me that there is some dead reckoning ability built into the 430.

I like the graphics in the 430 better than the graphics in the 730. I know others feel differently. You need to look at both for yourself. I also like the Garmin interface a lot more, too.

As for being able to voice command the nav on the 730, I found that to be better in theory than in practice. In my limited experience with the 730, whenever I would voice command a new destination on the 730, I would have an extended conversation with my nav that became tedious after a while. I ended up preferring to enter new destinations manually. Your experience may differ.

However the one thing the old 730 had that the 430 does not is Sirius Traffic, which is displayed real time on the map. I am aware the 430 will be getting Sirius Travel Link soon, but even with that upgrade, the 430 will still not show real-time traffic. The ability to have the nav route you around traffic real-time is the real difference to me and how important that is to you may ultimately impact your decision. Even though I like nearly every other aspect of the 430 better, I would have gotten the 730, because of this single feature, had it been available when I ordered in September.

Other than not having real-time traffic, I love the 430 and consider it better than the 730 in all other ways.

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Thanks RedBolt. Great answer.
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