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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

Greetings,

CDT speakers are another excellent company. They range from basic to audiophile quality. I am not sure who manufactures their speakers for them. They defiantly designed in conjunction with either Scanspeak or Seas.

When you look at madisound.com or part-express.com websites, the raw speakers that you see are the speaker company that built them for the major name brands. Madisonsound selection has more of the hi-end European raw drivers. For example, Polk uses a lot products from Peerless, Vifa and even Scanspeak. Focal manufactures their own.

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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

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CDT speakers are another excellent company. They range from basic to audiophile quality. I am not sure who manufactures their speakers for them. They defiantly designed in conjunction with either Scanspeak or Seas.

When you look at madisound.com or part-express.com websites, the raw speakers that you see are the speaker company that built them for the major name brands. Madisonsound selection has more of the hi-end European raw drivers. For example, Polk uses a lot products from Peerless, Vifa and even Scanspeak. Focal manufactures their own.

Best for now.
Focal still claims that their products are in house made in France. The speakers I just received are stamped from China. I've also been hearing of quality issues with Focal lately. This is my last Focal purchase.

From now on I'll stick with Diamond, CDT, HAT, PPI and speakers like that depending on the level I want
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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

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Even more of the European Speaker manufacture are starting to outsource some lines over to Asia. At least some quality control is present for the time being. It is becoming pot-luck down the road.

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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

For $250 bucks i found the 6x9 upgrade to focal 690's a good buy, did not change the tweeters. But the short is....if money is no object lots could be improved on the alpine as it's just not a great system.

The HK I think is very hard to beat, best to buy it right out of the gate if you have the option.


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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

Greetings,

In another thread regarding the difference between the Alpine & HK, I said that the Alpine should have been what the HK is. Their are folks who have modified the HK and gotten better results.

If you have the option of getting the HK, then I recommend it. The difference in the extra cost would be the cost of a minor upgrade for the Alpine. So you could imagine what the cost of a full blown upgrade will cost.

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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

Hey nookie,when you put in the 6x9s did you do the front and rear doors and what sound improvement did you notice compared to the stock speakers?
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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

Big difference on the fronts, bass not as mushy, much firmer kick and clearer lows.

The rears, I installed thunder 52 but they sounded like crap and went back to stock. I figured a smaller speaker with less bass would be a good choice but missed the boat on that one. Will try focal 6.25"s next round.

The center went with a JL350 which was another step forward.



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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

So you initially didn't go with the same focals for the rear doors,you only did the fronts? Now you're going with which focals for the rears?
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Re: Focals ISS 690, ISC 165 & Polk db351 install tutorial with pics

Hey man I don't think I can PM because I'm new to this forum.

PM me if you can and have any input on a JBL MS-8 integration. I want to swap my DSP and clan up my upper range without several external amps
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Many thanks to OP for posting the install steps and great pictures. Swapped everything in and overall am very happy. Got rid of the weak highs, muffled midrange and flabby, overdone midbass. The focals are definitely bright and I can see swapping out to the Alpine Type R tweeters (already ordered). I figure between the soft dome and reduced sensitivity, it'll help tame the top end in the front. Will be dropping it off to a shop this week sometime to have the JL Stealthbox and JX500/1D installed. I have the light frost interior and found an open box Stealthbox for Dark Frost. It's definitely a different shade of tan, but to me, looks better than the black that is suggested for Light Frost. Will post pictures after it comes back if anyone is interested.

For the dash center, I tried the Polk unit that is commonly used, but ended up with the Hertz DCX 87.3 as it seemed a bit better in the midrange and overall blended better to my ears.
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Many thanks to OP for posting the install steps and great pictures. Swapped everything in and overall am very happy. Got rid of the weak highs, muffled midrange and flabby, overdone midbass. The focals are definitely bright and I can see swapping out to the Alpine Type R tweeters (already ordered). I figure between the soft dome and reduced sensitivity, it'll help tame the top end in the front. Will be dropping it off to a shop this week sometime to have the JL Stealthbox and JX500/1D installed. I have the light frost interior and found an open box Stealthbox for Dark Frost. It's definitely a different shade of tan, but to me, looks better than the black that is suggested for Light Frost. Will post pictures after it comes back if anyone is interested.

For the dash center, I tried the Polk unit that is commonly used, but ended up with the Hertz DCX 87.3 as it seemed a bit better in the midrange and overall blended better to my ears.
I also have the JX 500. It's a great amp and so small it's super easy to hide right under the passenger seat.

However, Why on earth would you buy the focal set and not use the tweeter? You know that basically what you're paying for when you buy Focal. You're spending a lot on your audio you should use the tweeter and get a DSP piggy back or just replace the factory one.
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However, Why on earth would you buy the focal set and not use the tweeter? .
My old truck I had 700 $ focals in the front with a bitten processor, amps etc
As others stated, the tweeters are ear piercing and down right annoying. The shop had to detune the heck out of the bit ten to make them sound good.
Now, I have a theroy why some love them and others hate them
Me, the gf and one other friend found them harsely annoying...others and the guy at the shop didnt understand why.
My guess...its like a dog whistle, only dogs can hear it...the focals put out a frequency that some can hear, others can't
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