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Old 03-03-2014, 02:56 AM
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

I have looked at that diagram many times since I bought my SRT in July and it is useless. It only shows 14 locations and if the larger speaker locations are multi speaker it should say so.
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Will the Summit audio system let me Bluetooth-stream spotify from an iPhone 5?
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Will the Summit audio system let me Bluetooth-stream spotify from an iPhone 5?
Yes, as will the Overland system.
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

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I have looked at that diagram many times since I bought my SRT in July and it is useless. It only shows 14 locations and if the larger speaker locations are multi speaker it should say so.
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The SRT with HK system has 19 speakers in 14 locations. The 3.5 speakers are coaxial driver that I believe use a passive crossover. Technically, a coaxial speaker is made up of 2 speakers/drivers. It does not matter if it has a passive or uses the electronic crossover. Here with HK, it is made up of a separate midrange driver and a separate tweeter driver, thus 2 drivers per location. This is not a single wide band full range driver.

The center, front door and rear pillar consisting of the 3.5 adds up to 10.
The remaining speakers in the front door is another 4.
The remaining speakers in the rear door is another 4.
The single (1) 10 inch sub makes up the 19 speaker (drivers) .

The use of coaxial speakers is very common in home and pro audio.

Hope this helps.

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Will the Summit audio system let me Bluetooth-stream spotify from an iPhone 5?
Yup, and not only spotify, but any music or audio source (ie Google music, waze, rdio, tune-in, etc) that can be played through the bluetooth output on your phone.
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

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Greetings,

The SRT with HK system has 19 speakers in 14 locations. The 3.5 speakers are coaxial driver that I believe use a passive crossover. Technically, a coaxial speaker is made up of 2 speakers/drivers. It does not matter if it has a passive or uses the electronic crossover. Here with HK, it is made up of a separate midrange driver and a separate tweeter driver, thus 2 drivers per location. This is not a single wide band full range driver.

The center, front door and rear pillar consisting of the 3.5 adds up to 10.
The remaining speakers in the front door is another 4.
The remaining speakers in the rear door is another 4.
The single (1) 10 inch sub makes up the 19 speaker (drivers) .

The use of coaxial speakers is very common in home and pro audio.

Hope this helps.



Best for now.

Thank you for your reply and information on the exact speaker make up. That is what I was refering to as missing with my comment of if it was a multi speaker arrangement in certain locations they should have included that information.
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

This was confusing me too. Came across the details in the JGC brochure. It shows the 9+5+2+2+1 = 19 configuration.
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

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Thank you for your reply and information on the exact speaker make up. That is what I was refering to as missing with my comment of if it was a multi speaker arrangement in certain locations they should have included that information.
Greetings,

No problem and any time.

That's Chrysler Audio Division for you.

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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

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This was confusing me too. Came across the details in the JGC brochure. It shows the 9+5+2+2+1 = 19 configuration.
Greetings,

They should have done it the way I described it above with a better illustration showing the midrange driver plus (use a + sign) the tweeter = the coaxial. The 9 tweeters general confuses everybody.


BTW, till date, I have not heard the HK system. Harman loves the use of coaxial drivers in Mobile Audio. I am not a fan of having to many tweeters in a car. I am sure in the DSP, Harman, has toned it down, otherwise, you can get a serve case of "ear bleed".

In my current setup (got rid of the Alpine), I have only one pair tweeters located in the front along with a 6 inch driver. The rest of the speakers are wide band full range with the highs cutting out at 15K hz.

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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

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They should have done it the way I described it above with a better illustration showing the midrange driver plus (use a + sign) the tweeter = the coaxial. The 9 tweeters general confuses everybody.


BTW, till date, I have not heard the HK system. Harman loves the use of coaxial drivers in Mobile Audio. I am not a fan of having to many tweeters in a car. I am sure in the DSP, Harman, has toned it down, otherwise, you can get a serve case of "ear bleed".

In my current setup (got rid of the Alpine), I have only one pair tweeters located in the front along with a 6 inch driver. The rest of the speakers are wide band full range with the highs cutting out at 15K hz.

Best for now.

While I like the HK system in my Vapor I must admit I expected more. In my previous vehicle a 2004 Buick Rainier I had the Bose premium system with XM radio and 6 disc CD head unit. Then in 05 I added a JL Audio stealth box subwoofer and a JL Audio 250/1 class D subwoofer amp and it sounded awesome, great tight bass much more than the HK and rich full sound.

I thought that with nearly a decade of new technology a $2000 upgrade over the factory radio with 19 speakers would blow my old system away, but not so much I actually think the Buick sounded better. I had a 50 minute highway drive to the dealership to pick up my SRT8 so I blasted the tunes on XM radio in my Buick one last time, on the way back home in my new Jeep same road, same channels, same blasting and I thought I would be blown away by the upgrade in sound with a direct back to back comparison but I wasn't.

Now in full disclosure the default setting for the HK seems to be surround sound and after I got home and adjusted all my settings I switched it to stereo and it sounded better in my opinion but I expected more. I don't think I'll be going the aftermarket route on my Jeep even though I must admit I've been reading all the posts regarding the JL Audio stealth box subs because I'm a big fan but it sounds like you made the right call changing out yours and I bet it sounds great
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

Also, the XM channels aren't known for sounding too good in the JGC. Best sound I tend to get is from SD, USB and BT. Depends on the copy of course.
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Re: From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

Greetings,

The SirusXM receiver is not the best in the world in terms of output gain. Whereas, the SirusXM app produces far better quality sound. When I switched my headunit over to the Pioneer AppRadio 3, I gave up the SirusXM altogether including the online service I have found the music apps via the premium services far better. They are very close to CD quality.

The problem with OEM sound systems with some car manufactures, they give the Audio OEM suppliers extremely tight specifications to work with. As the old saying goes, design it like a Rolls-Royce, market like a Rolls-Royce, but, we will only pay you pennies. Then charge the customer for a SQ garbage system.

The worse part, some manufactures do not make the vehicle integration with aftermarket products easy. It requires expensive solutions to correct the problem. Surround Sounds systems need the proper power (my 3 amps does the trick for me ) behind the speakers. The speakers have to match the acoustics of the vehicle, moreover, it has meet the satisfaction of the driver and passengers. Thus, the ability to give the user more ability to tune.

It would be interesting to find out the crossover settings of the all the speakers in the HK system. It could make the integration selection for the upgrades easier and right on target.

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