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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

There is an elegant way of getting juice without splicing wires. It is costly, but one has to think of it as not just a $430 dollar splice. It adds lots of capability to the vehicle and it up to you to use it. It is called LockPick Air v2.

It is one of the 2 or 3 solutions for cancelling the speed lock on the navigation input, or one of the 2 mainstream methods of adding cameras. Unlike the Customtronix, the box also provides power for up to 4 cameras (Front, Rear, Left and Right) and an Aux A/V Input and A/V Output. Power is always on (if I recall correctly), the box will switch the display to each particular input based on the gear selection (Drive under 5 mph; Reverse) or turn signal position (left, right). You can also Miracast your phone screen for Waze or other needs. At the moment, I have Left, Right, and Rear ports free. And yes, it comes with short harnesses that plug back into the box, while the power and ground connectors are bare wires to accommodate all your soldering or connector needs.

The point is - like many others - I refuse tapping fuses. I went thru 5 iterations of CarPC and 2 permanent radar installs in a Subaru without ever taping a fuse - just running extra wires to the battery. Obviously, with the Jeep is far more difficult but the grommet mentioned elsewhere to reach to the engine compartment is there for a reason or several reasons. One is future capability. And for the similar reasons, you can get assorted size grommets in a little plastic box at Home Depot if you can't poke a hole thru the existing rubber plug and squeeze wires thru. You have to go thru that grommet to get a front parking camera installed. Frankly, at this point, I could just run a recorder (powered from one of the other slots) that intercepts the video feed from the front camera. Yeah, the angle is off, there is no sound, but my point is that there is more than one way to skin the cat. Lose the elegance, resolution and sound of the BlackVue, but with the appropriate aftermarket front and rear parking cameras (probably both at half the price of a BlackVue), positioned strategically, you can achieve a satisfactory result, with more capabilities added to the factory navi, and without taping wires. Not to mention that you can unhook everything and get it back to dealership ready status in just a few minutes.
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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

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6. Plug in the cigarette lighter and Multi-Safer unit. Zip tie any loose wires and stick some double-sided tape on the Multi-Safer. I chose to mount it to the side of the engine bay, facing up, so that I could still adjust the settings if necessary. 






Are you not worried that water will get into the Multi-Safer unit and damaging it?

On the topic of splicing, to those that don't wish to splice into the wiring at the cig lighter - you can always remove the pin/connector from the plastic housing and solder your feed wire onto it and insert back into the plastic housing. This way you can remove it if needed and now one would be the wiser (unless they pull the pin/connector out of housing and see that it was soldered to).
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Are you not worried that water will get into the Multi-Safer unit and damaging it?
Same location, in engine bay. Have had it running through snow/rain/sleet/sand dunes/puddles/etc... Still working. I was slightly nervous after install but then didn't want to rerun or adjust the location.

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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

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Are you not worried that water will get into the Multi-Safer unit and damaging it?

On the topic of splicing, to those that don't wish to splice into the wiring at the cig lighter - you can always remove the pin/connector from the plastic housing and solder your feed wire onto it and insert back into the plastic housing. This way you can remove it if needed and now one would be the wiser (unless they pull the pin/connector out of housing and see that it was soldered to).
I'd be concerned about water/moisture getting into the fuse box as well with wire just going right over the gasket. Incredibly bad.

3M Tap's are pretty innocuous. And you can leave the tap and "unplug" the wire or just remove the Tap. But I have done what you suggested in the past as well.

Either your suggestion or a 3M Tap is 10x better than wires hanging out of your fuse box under the hood and through the firewall, for an INTERIOR camera no less. A service person would have to be blind to not notice it. I wouldn't blame a service guy for refusing to do warranty work on it.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:19 AM
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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

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Are you not worried that water will get into the Multi-Safer unit and damaging it?

On the topic of splicing, to those that don't wish to splice into the wiring at the cig lighter - you can always remove the pin/connector from the plastic housing and solder your feed wire onto it and insert back into the plastic housing. This way you can remove it if needed and now one would be the wiser (unless they pull the pin/connector out of housing and see that it was soldered to).
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I'd be concerned about water/moisture getting into the fuse box as well with wire just going right over the gasket. Incredibly bad.

3M Tap's are pretty innocuous. And you can leave the tap and "unplug" the wire or just remove the Tap. But I have done what you suggested in the past as well.

Either your suggestion or a 3M Tap is 10x better than wires hanging out of your fuse box under the hood and through the firewall, for an INTERIOR camera no less. A service person would have to be blind to not notice it. I wouldn't blame a service guy for refusing to do warranty work on it.
At the very least, if you're going to wire stuff up under the hood, make it look like it belongs. Encase it in a wire loom and run it in places other wiring is running. For example, can you guess which wiring is mine below?



Hint: second from the left - the small loom.
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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

I was thinking of buying that same model, but I wasn't too sure of the camera's reliability. I've seen mixed reviews on it.
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At the very least, if you're going to wire stuff up under the hood, make it look like it belongs. Encase it in a wire loom and run it in places other wiring is running. For example, can you guess which wiring is mine below?



Hint: second from the left - the small loom.
Exactly. Make it look like you know what your doing at least
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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

Hey Guys,

For anyone who has the Blackvue 650-2CH. what are you're settings at for sensitivity? I've had mine at about 5 across the board and its extremely sensitive still... records leafs blowing and trees. Also when or how hard does the car need to be hit or scratched for it to record in E mode? I've only had P and N mode. I've pushed my car while it records and didn't put it into E mode recording at all...not sure what else I need to change to fix this.

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For anyone who has the Blackvue 650-2CH. what are you're settings at for sensitivity? I've had mine at about 5 across the board and its extremely sensitive still... records leafs blowing and trees. Also when or how hard does the car need to be hit or scratched for it to record in E mode? I've only had P and N mode. I've pushed my car while it records and didn't put it into E mode recording at all...not sure what else I need to change to fix this.

Thanks!
I've read to turn motion off and just leave make it sensitive on g sensor, especially during parking mode.

By the way, can someone shed some light on removing the panels on the lift gate? I've got my wire all the way to the back now but I'm not sure how to get the panels off from behind the liftgate to run the coax through the grommet. Same thing at the top of the trunk opening -- the top trim that wraps around the top. Is it just as simple as using a trim tool and popping it off?

I tried forcing it with my hand a little and it seemed a bit tight so I didn't want to force it any further.
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By the way, can someone shed some light on removing the panels on the lift gate? I've got my wire all the way to the back now but I'm not sure how to get the panels off from behind the liftgate to run the coax through the grommet. Same thing at the top of the trunk opening -- the top trim that wraps around the top. Is it just as simple as using a trim tool and popping it off?

I tried forcing it with my hand a little and it seemed a bit tight so I didn't want to force it any further.
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Re: How To - Dash Cam Install - Blackvue 650 2-Channel

Haven't tried to install a dashcam in this car yet, but in my previous vehicle (VW Wagon) I ran the power down into the passenger cabin and simply plugged it into the cig lighter that was behind the center console. It was always on and could run for a week without ruining the battery. It was a ThinkWare 550 and was the dual cam setup.

Is the Cig lighter in the back of the center console in the jeep tied to ignition and not hot all the time?
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