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If not 6x9s in front.......

I'm still in the "research stage" of my audio upgrade of the base 6 speaker system. Don't need anything really fancy, just a little better sound quality. I've been following the discussions here, and I'm getting antsy to get it done, since winter is approaching, and I've grown to dislike working in a cold garage.

There has been much discussion of the "harsh" sound of the Kicker and Focal tweeters, so I'm shying away either of those component sets. CDT has been mentioned, but they don't seem to be as efficient as other speakers, which creates a concern.

I was browsing through some audio accessories, and saw MDF adapters, to mount a 6" speaker in the 6x9 opening, and that got me thinking. There are several 6" component sets out there, and they seem to have silk dome tweeters, which POTENTIALLY could provide a nice sound.

Therefore, I'll ask........has anyone tried this set-up, and if so, what speakers did you use, and how did it turn out?

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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

Greetings,

You can try my current favorite speaker company, Hybrid Audio Technologies:

Imagine I61-2V2 6.5" Component / Coaxial Speaker Set - 12v Electronics

The efficiency rating is 93.2.

or setup with the same efficiency rating of 93.2:

Unity U61-2 6.5" 2-way Component Speaker System - 12v Electronics


IMHO, the higher lines of HAT, you will need aftermarket amps and maybe a DSP.

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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

I appreciate the response, and certainly would consider these speakers. However, it's my understanding that while a 6" diameter speaker would fit within the "footprint" of a 6x9, the 6.5" speaker won't.

Am I mistaken?

FWIW, I don't want to get into any major modifications that might jeopardize the terms of my warranty. First of all, my GC is only 6 months old, and secondly, I spent $2200 for the Maxlife coverage, and don't want to give the dealer/FCA any room to wiggle out of covering the vehicle, should something go wrong.

That's why I'm looking at only a simple speaker upgrade.
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

i have the alpine system and just did the upgrade to the fronts with the focal 690s i didnt feel comfy with pulling off my doors so i paid a car audio shop to put them in. i think they sound great and i have only used them for maybe an hour total so far. i am not hearing any harshness from the tweeters to me it just sounds so much more tighter and louder overall.
i also upgraded the center speaker with the polk db350 and the combo of that with the focal tweeters sounds great to my ears.
i will be doing the rear doors probably sometime next week and then its on to the sub but may wait a bit on that as the system is so much more better than stock and just with the fronts and the center channel ive noticed a huge difference.
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

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I appreciate the response, and certainly would consider these speakers. However, it's my understanding that while a 6" diameter speaker would fit within the "footprint" of a 6x9, the 6.5" speaker won't.

Am I mistaken?

FWIW, I don't want to get into any major modifications that might jeopardize the terms of my warranty. First of all, my GC is only 6 months old, and secondly, I spent $2200 for the Maxlife coverage, and don't want to give the dealer/FCA any room to wiggle out of covering the vehicle, should something go wrong.

That's why I'm looking at only a simple speaker upgrade.
Greetings,


You would need to have an adapter plate installed to allow for the round 6.5 speaker to fit in. They are very easy to come by. As a straight speaker swap without using the included passive crossovers regardless of the brand should not effect your warranty. Especially if you establish yourself with service. In addition, you have protect rights under Federal law via the Magnuson-Moss Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus...s_Warranty_Act

The HAT Imagine Stage 2 speakers have an excellent price point for the excellent quality sound. This is consider a simple upgrade. A more complex upgrade that roll in major money is something I did.

In any event, select the speaker that you feel comfortable to listen to you. As I have said many times here, each of us percieve sound differently.


Best for now.
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

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Greetings,

You can try my current favorite speaker company, Hybrid Audio Technologies:

Imagine I61-2V2 6.5" Component / Coaxial Speaker Set - 12v Electronics

The efficiency rating is 93.2.

or setup with the same efficiency rating of 93.2:

Unity U61-2 6.5" 2-way Component Speaker System - 12v Electronics


IMHO, the higher lines of HAT, you will need aftermarket amps and maybe a DSP.

Best for now.
Hi 1stJeepGC,

I'm still researching best speaker-only replacement options for the Alpine system. I appreciate your opinion of the HATs. Would these work for the front doors and tweeters? I don't mind the extra cost, if they would be any better.

Imagine I69-2V2 Speaker Set - 12v Electronics

These have a slightly higher efficiency rating and I'm guessing they might fit without any adaptor.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:43 PM
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

I've post this is a few other audio threads. I had the '15 Laredo E with the base 6 speaker system on the 5" RA2 uconnect head unit.

What I've done.
Alpine KTP 445U 45x4 power pack amp.
Kenwood KFC-6985PS 6x9's for the front doors.
Kenwood KFC-1665S 6 1/2 for the rear doors.
Kenwood KFC ST01 tweeters for the upper front doors.

To say that the difference in sound audio quality and pure power is STELLAR is an understatement.
It by far surpasses the Alpine system. I know this because my bud has the alpine system in his WK2 and it couldn't compete, even with his subwoofer and mine without. And I have since added a sub for my own amusement.

This cost me well under 300.00 for everything with doing the installing myself..

Hope this helps. Any questions don't hesitate to ask.
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

where did you mount the amp?

current prices on Crutchfield (didn't look around for best prices yet)

Alpine KTP 445U 45x4 power pack amp.
$150

Kenwood KFC-6985PS 6x9's for the front doors.
$90/pr

Kenwood KFC-1665S 6 1/2 for the rear doors.
$40/pr

Kenwood KFC ST01 tweeters for the upper front doors.
$50/pr

not bad for $330. what do you have for your sub setup?
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

Yeah stay away from crutchfield as they tend to gouge. Onlinecarstereo.com is a good source.

I mounted the 445U behind the RA2 in the dash. Pretty good amount of room for it in there.

For the sub, i bought an enclosure from a 2012 JGC off ebay. That fits an 8 inch sub. I modified mine to accomodate a 10 inch Kicker Sub (79.00) and to run it I bought a Soundstream picasso nano D class mono amp. I think i paid 130.00 for that online.
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Re: If not 6x9s in front.......

Do i need to use the x overs for my front component speakers for my standard six speaker system?
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Do i need to use the x overs for my front component speakers for my standard six speaker system?

From what I've read in other posts, here, the factory HU is doing the "x-over", therefore you use the OE tweeter wiring to drive the aftermarket tweeter you install, and the OE 6x9 wiring to drive the mid-bass speaker of your choice.

In addressing my original question, I most certainly have seen adapters to substitute other speakers in a 6x9 opening, but I'm having trouble seeing how a 6.5" speaker will fit in an oval opening that's only 6" tall.....
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I mounted the 445U behind the RA2 in the dash. Pretty good amount of room for it in there.

For the sub, i bought an enclosure from a 2012 JGC off ebay. That fits an 8 inch sub. I modified mine to accomodate a 10 inch Kicker Sub (79.00) and to run it I bought a Soundstream picasso nano D class mono amp. I think i paid 130.00 for that online.
hey, did you buy the wiring harness to hook up the speakers off the HU? where did you tap into power for the amp? I just swapped out my door speakers and think I need an amp like this to really show improvement. any help you can provide would be great...I haven't hooked up an amp since the early 90's, lol
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