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March UConnect TSB and SMS Text to Speech

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#1 ·
Hi,

Curious if anyone has had the March UConnect TSB 08-018-12 applied to their 430N yet?

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_0801812.pdf

Specifically, I'm wondering about this enhancement that Jeep notes:

- SMS messaging support via MAP protocol (not all phones support the MAP
protocol).

Of all the great functions Uconnect offers, this is one thing I would really like to get working. Yeah I know, many of the limitations are due to phone carriers or manufacturers not supporting this functionality on their handsets.

 
#6 · (Edited)
Quick update, I got a new phone (HTC One S) and was happy to see an option in the phone to turn on MAP. Once I did this the text-to-speech function started working, woohoo!

It's a little disconcerting though to have my GC tell me "I love you!" when my wife sends me a text!
 
#8 · (Edited)
Quick update, I got a new phone (HTC One S) and was happy to see an option in the phone to turn on MAP. Once I did this the text-to-speech function started working, woohoo!

It's a little disconcerting though to have the my GC tell me "I love you!" when my wife sends me a text!
Do you have any "reply" capability without touching the phone?

Edit: Just realized this question could be misconstrued....

Can you reply to an SMS hands-free via the 430?
 
#15 ·
So if I understand correctly, all 2012 UConnect systems (430 and 730 radios) should support SMS texting via the MAP profile.

I am trying to figure out if my new phone (ATT Samsung Galaxy Note) supports the MAP profile. But based on searches, it is supported by Ford Sync, which I believe also used the MAP profile.

However, when my phone is connected to the radio in my Overland Summit, it will not read text messages. I also do not see an option in the phone to turn on MAP. Is there a setting in the radio that I have to enable?
 
#18 ·
The Mitsubishi radios (430, 430N, 130 etc) have nothing to do with the MAP profile. This profile is supported by the external Uconnect module.
That system supports MAP in the MY12 vehicles.
The Harman radios (730, 730N etc) have Uconnect built in to the radio because Uconnect is an internal part of the radio. As of now, the Harman radios don't support MAP, however I have read that they will have an SW update that will then support MAP. I don't know of the release date though.
I have a friend that has the NOTE, I'll see if I can borrow it and test it for MAP. There's not a setting in the radio to turn MAP on. I'll let you know what I find out on it, ok.
 
#17 ·
xsdbs thanks for your posts, very interesting.

Do you know of a specific list of the different enhanced features the 2012 UC and/or 730N RHR offers over the 2011 version besides MAP for SMS?

Can you confirm/deny that a software update for a 2011 730N RHR will/will not enable some/all of those features such as MAP for SMS?

Regarding replacing the 2011 UC with a 2012 UC module and "plug and play", I take this to mean I could pull the glove drawer, remove the UC module and replace it myself with no other changes?

Would you happen to know a part number for the 2012 UC module?

I actually have a 2011 Dodge Challenger but caught this thread on a search.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I can only really speak on the 430/ 430N radios, I have limited experience on the 730 series, and I have a couple contacts for the Harman radios but they somewhat refuse to offer me the information that could be used to help forum members (I am around on about 6 forums trying to help out). So I get a little information here and there.
In the 2012 vehicles with the RES, REQ, RHB & RBZ radios, the enhancements are: (this information is taken directly from the TSB 08-018-12 which was released about a month ago for the MY12 models.
The customer satisfaction enhancements are included with this software release:
NOTE: After the HFM has been updated it will receive these enhancements.
· Reduced “Device Reading” wait time after connecting a device to the remote USB
port.
· Call / Dial separation improves upon names being recognized as phone numbers.
· Improved sound quality during Bluetooth streaming.
· Increased iPod and iPhone compatibility.
· SMS messaging support via MAP protocol (not all phones support the MAP
protocol).
· Added “None of These” and “Correction” to the phone book prompt menu for better
handling of similar names.
· Previous button will return the song currently being played to the beginning of the
track.
· AirPlay feature “Dock Connector” no longer needs to be manually selected on Apple
devices. This will resolve the “No Audio” condition when the device is connected to
the remote USB port and dock connector is not selected.
NOTE: USB mode resume will no longer 'resume' after ignition OFF

I can only say that I heard a short while back that currently the 730 series doesn't support MAP but they plan on an update that will support it.

The PN's for the Uconnect module are:

High speed CAN BUS network vehicles-- 68104904AC
Low Speed CAN BUS network vehicles-- 68104903AC
Yes you would be able to remove your current module and plug the new part in, simple.
I just looked online and found the parts at:
http://www.factorymoparparts.com/68104903ac.html and
http://www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/JEEP__PATRIOT/MODULE-Telematics--[RSP]/6891510/68104903AC.html

I may be able to get a better cost on the part thru a couple connections but I may need to have few orders. I can look into it and let you know.
 
#20 · (Edited)
xsdbs, again thanks for the great info. Obviously this stuff is very hard to come by!

Regarding the 2011 Harman 730N RHR and support for MAP it sounds like it's worth just being patient in the short term for an update vs buying a new module now.

I very much appreciate you going to the trouble to look up and post the part numbers and sources.

Regarding current SMS support for this model (AT command) it appears there simply is none for *any* phone.

I have a Samsung V195. Send/receive sms texting in general on the phone works fine.

I see no option for sms in my 730N menus nor does the unit respond correctly to the voice commands (“SMS Read”,“Read Messages,“SMS Send”,“Send Messages”)

Looks like I'm not alone.

http://jeepgarage.org/showpost.php?p=597769&postcount=3

http://jeepgarage.org/showpost.php?p=597773&postcount=4

xsdbs, I'm curious what if any reponse you got from your feb 2012 inquiry

The referenced phone compatibility document in one of the above posts was from march 2012 which indeed showed zero compatible phones tested with the 730N RHR and the Text messaging (SMS) feature.

At that time there were the below phones in that document 'scheduled for testing' with the 730N RHR

BlackBerry Bold 9780
HTC HD7
Motorola Droid Pro
Motorola Citrus
Samsung Continuum
Apple iPhone Verizon
 
#21 ·
First, I may not have been clear on this, the external (and replaceable) uconnect module is used on the Mitsubishi radio line. The Harman radios have Uconnect built into the radio and can't be replaced (without buying a new radio, but this wouldn't help).
I'm not sure if the 2011 RHR will get an update that will include MAP. I have only heard about the 2012 radios getting it, however Harman may change their mind. I am limited on getting information on the Harman radios, they don't have anyone to offer quality help to their customers and also feel that I shouldn't be trying to help, so they tend to (or so it seems anyway) to just delete my emails. Instead, they could appreciate a non paid by them person that is willing to help others. Oh well enough complaining.
For "AT"command, there were very few phones that supported that profile. Phone companies have been spending R&D money on the newest profile MAP. There are some phones that support MAP and actually work. There are some that can receive messages but can't send messages. Like anything new, there will be the need to do some tune ups.
I don't know about the list of phones in your post, but one thing for sure is that APPLE has no plans on supporting MAP or AT commands for texting thru BT.
Also that list that is mentioned is actually dated 3-7-2011, not 2012.
 
#23 ·
I find it very annoying that Chrysler advertises the SMS option for the 730N, while in reality it doesn't work! The radio doesn't even understand the SMS command, it either tunes to an FM satellite radio station. With the 2014 getting a new system, let's hope they don't forget about updating the older Harmon radios.
 
#25 ·
I know this is slightly off topic but does concern the update. I have a 2011 GC with the 430N and have updated via CD and from uconnect.upd thanks to these forums! Which has resolved some issues. But my main issue is the crappy BTSA from my iPhone (4 and 4s with latest iOS). Basically the high end of the audio is garbled and sounds horrible. My phones work great for calls, ipod controls etc. but BTSA is unbearable. Do you know if the latest update on the TSB mentioned here will fix that problem? I complained to my local jeep dealer when I had it in for another unrelated item and he told me the tech said his phone streams fine so it is not a proble. Obviously he is wrong as it is my Jeep and my phones do not stream fine or as advertised... sorry for the off track post guys! Any help is greatly appreciated as I am very frustrated with this issue.
 
#27 ·
You may just need to turn on MAP on your phone - it was not enabled on my new phone by default (HTC One S), even though I had Bluetooth setup and otherwise working.

For my phone, the setting was under Bluetooth>Advanced>Message Access. If I didn't note in one of my earlier replies, I did not end up needing to have the TSB applied on my 2012 GC for this functionality to start working - just needed to find that setting in the phone and turn it on :D
 
#31 ·
This is what I found with that phone also. I have reported it to Uconnect & Samsung. This is the same that happens with a few other phones also. But there are phones that do work correctly with Uconnect & MAP. So I'm not really sure at this point who is at fault. I do know that the Uconnect SW is written to BTSIG specs. The problem is with the BT specs are not tightly regulated so they can be played around with.



The phone is a galaxy S3. I did finally get the message to enable MAP. I can recieve but not send.
 
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