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Re: Muddy bass?

I have done audio/video installs all my life and have never had any kind of luck making a stock sub sound good. Ive actually built entire new boxes and cant get them to sound good. But my opinion of sounding good could be totally different than yours! I listen to a lot of hip hop and rock so i like my bass and stock subs just dont do it for me. They are muddy just like you said they dont hit low notes by any means and are not very "tight" but thats my opinion i dont think it will hurt to try!
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:06 PM
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One thing I am not clear on is if the stock sub has a vent port, and if so - should I close it up? From what I recall a closed sub is usually tighter sounding but can't move as much so you take a hit on volume... That sound about right?
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Re: Muddy bass?

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I have done audio/video installs all my life and have never had any kind of luck making a stock sub sound good. Ive actually built entire new boxes and cant get them to sound good. But my opinion of sounding good could be totally different than yours! I listen to a lot of hip hop and rock so i like my bass and stock subs just dont do it for me. They are muddy just like you said they dont hit low notes by any means and are not very "tight" but thats my opinion i dont think it will hurt to try!
Sounds like your not very good at building boxes then LOL

I have a very good audiophile ear. Worked in Home audio for 8 years, did car audio installs for 12 years, and love music. The point here isn't to have ground pounding bass. I have a killer system in my CTS. I don't need it here. I just want to get a little better bass from the stock system. Doing this, will do just that. I don't want to spend really any money. The sound is pretty decent, but I know it can be cleared up.

The nice thing is, anything I am going to do, and the things we are discussing here, will at least make it sound better. Will it be a "HOLY SHIT, this is the best system ever" moment? Nope, but it will sound better for $30 and a couple hours time
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Re: Muddy bass?

I have done home audio/video sales and installs for 6 years and car audio installs for 10 years so i dont have quite your experience but if you seem to know it all about box building you should know you will never get a "quality" sound out of a plastic box! Ha thats just a joke! Why dont you break out some birch plywood a little kitty hair and some resin and do it right why waste $30 when you can do it right for $75? Im just the kind of person to do something right the first time....if u put wood in the box the end result is still a plastic enclosure! I build ported boxes for spl and sq competitions but what do i know....never "built" a plastic box nor have i ever seen someone do it i guess thete are multiple reasons for that.....all im saying is i think its a waste of time to modify the plastic stock enclosure like the post says
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I have done home audio/video sales and installs for 6 years and car audio installs for 10 years so i dont have quite your experience but if you seem to know it all about box building you should know you will never get a "quality" sound out of a plastic box! Ha thats just a joke! Why dont you break out some birch plywood a little kitty hair and some resin and do it right why waste $30 when you can do it right for $75? Im just the kind of person to do something right the first time....if u put wood in the box the end result is still a plastic enclosure! I build ported boxes for spl and sq competitions but what do i know....never "built" a plastic box nor have i ever seen someone do it i guess thete are multiple reasons for that.....all im saying is i think its a waste of time to modify the plastic stock enclosure like the post says
Wasn't trying to chest thump bro. I don't feel like making a box. As I said, the sound is good enough for what I am doing with the vehicle. I don't have the time nor the desire to make a box for this vehicle. I am fine with the sound as it is...but if the box can be made a little stronger, it will be better than it is now. Which is all I am looking to do.

But, since you can make the box for $75, I will take one and use yours. I bet others would jump on it too. You could probably Charge $100 and make some money...I am in. So, let's do this Stopping posting on the this forum and go make some sub boxes!
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Re: Muddy bass?

HAHA! Thats funny! I said i could do it for $75.....i never said i would do it for YOU or anyone else for that matter for that cheap! I can built you ANYTHING you want for the interior of that jeep but you better put in a few more hours at work boss! If i could get my hands on some rear bucket seats like the front i would rip out the entire console and built one front to back with a few subs in it but from the looks of the rear seat mounts it would be hell! I am currently building a huge front to back console in a 2010 JK wrangler for four 15 Fi subs....should be interesting
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Re: Muddy bass?

I understand what you are saying about the stock box though. If you dont want to spend money on it a few pieces of wood whether 2x4s or dowels should make it sound a little better....keep us posted
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I understand what you are saying about the stock box though. If you dont want to spend money on it a few pieces of wood whether 2x4s or dowels should make it sound a little better....keep us posted
That's my plan. Probably dowels, hopefully screwed from the outside and glued from the inside. I also have some dynamat that I am going to try to work in as well. I doubt if the bracing will make it sound worse...
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Yeah dowels should be fine 1-2" and no i doubt it will make it sound worse!?
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Re: Muddy bass?

Any luck yet?
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Actually, yes. I don't have pictures uploaded yet but I removed the sub today and put in 3 1" dowels - each tipped with deadening mat at each end to try to keep the dowels from being a conduit for vibration. Then I basically wrapped the box in Dynamat. Any surface that I could tap on and hear a drum effect i made sure was covered. Reinstalled the sub and all the fricken trim panels.

The result is pretty much what I was looking for. It isn't any louder just clearer. The bass seems quite a bit more defined. Overall I'm pretty happy with the change. It isn't on par with a better set of speakers (or sub) at all but it seems to have cleared up what I felt was a severe deficiency. Certainly not bad for a $4 dowel and $15 in Dynamat.
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Where did you put the dowels?

Post some pics when you get a chance Did you get any new rattle from the change? Can you for sure tell a difference or is it minimal?
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