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My audio build (2013 SRT8)

Not one to leave well enough alone, I have decided after much talk to upgrade my entire system out of my 2013 SRT8. Many thanks to users 12VGuy and 1stJeepGC for assisting me along the way.

This build is being done in phases but will be installing the following:
Alpine 009u
Maestro Datalink
Audison BitOne
Audison Voce Quattro
Audison Voce 5.1K
Dynaudio 342 (front doors)
Dynoaudio 242 (rear doors)
JL Stealthbox
Dynamat throughout

Phase 1: remove HK sub, run power wires/block for both amps, dynamat rear cargo area, install bitone, sub and amps, power 5.1k only and tap factory sub for signal

Phase 2: install Alpine and Datalink (retain factory amp and speakers)

Phase 3: install speakers, install dynamat to passenger area and doors, run speaker/RCA wires, bitone tune


Phase 1 has been completed and Phase 2 is currently in the works! Here are some pics, will update as this build progresses!





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Where are you dropping the amps dsp?
In the spare tire area?



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Yes that is the plan, Im hoping to figure out a solution to the spare since I really don't want to get rid of it and would like to run a collapsable spare like whats found on a Porsche Cayenne.
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Re: My audio build (2013 SRT8)

I'm interested to hear your impressions of the iDatalink Maestro. I've already started my 2012 SRT8 build and have ordered the Pac Audio but I'm 2nd guessing. I'd love to retain as many factory accessories (mic, gps) as possible.
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I'm interested to hear your impressions of the iDatalink Maestro. I've already started my 2012 SRT8 build and have ordered the Pac Audio but I'm 2nd guessing. I'd love to retain as many factory accessories (mic, gps) as possible.
Between using the factory controls and the features enabled with the iDatalink on the Alpine, it should be a pretty great setup. That and the iDatalink can be programmed to do other features. For example, I'm hiding the buttons for the 009u so all that is visible is the touch screen. We will then enable the rear center button to switch to the nav screen without have to touch the unit itself with a triple click on the right side. On the left center button, hold it for 3 seconds will enable Siri. Otherwise a single click of either center button will behave just as the standard factory buttons do.
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Greetings Carbon6,

First of all, congrats on your install and I am sure you are loving the sound.

With regards to idatalink, did you still use the Uconnect bluetooth and mic or you are using the Alpine to take advantage of their bluetooth technology? Also, with the GPS, you are using the Alpine's (IGO Primo) and their antenna?

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Greetings Carbon6,

First of all, congrats on your install and I am sure you are loving the sound.

With regards to idatalink, did you still use the Uconnect bluetooth and mic or you are using the Alpine to take advantage of their bluetooth technology? Also, with the GPS, you are using the Alpine's (IGO Primo) and their antenna?

Best for now.
Thank you very much, I am definitely loving the JL stealthbox though the 5.1k is pushing a ton of power to the sub since I am only running one channel at this time!

I was under the impression that the connect system was integrated with the RHR and by removing the factory unit, I would be using the Alpine BT with the factory mic... I'm assuming by your question that this is the wrong assumption. I want to use the Alpine BT since I will be using two phones in my SRT. One will be my iPhone 5s that will be mounted so that I can use it as a music files, mirroring, and most importantly for my AL laser shift app:

The other phone is my 6 (soon to be 6s) that I use for calls and streaming music. Nav will also be handled by the Alpine unit.

Question for you- with the Dynaudio 342 fronts and 242 rears, what are your thoughts on how to best wire the power to them? Also, I appreciate your help with some questions I had in the past.
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Question for you- with the Dynaudio 342 fronts and 242 rears, what are your thoughts on how to best wire the power to them? Also, I appreciate your help with some questions I had in the past.
Greetings,

I am assuming that when you get to phase 3 of your build this will come into play. Also, do you plan to cut out the center channel speaker? And, finally, did you purchasing anything yet?

I am not too keen on keeping the factory DSP/AMP in the equation with your system. With this caliber of equipment, the cleanest path is the best. I would also make use of the digital connection between the BitOne and the Audison amps. The question becomes, do you want to keep the surround sound via the factory DSP?

If you go the Alpine 009u into the BitOne and distribute to the aftermarket amps accordingly, then natural you loose the center channel and on the BitOne you have one channel not used. Also, with the passive crossover for the fronts you want to able to take advantage of the bi-amp capabilities.

The other factor to consider is how much tuning to want to apply to the Dyno's 342 3-way speakers? The newer generation of DSP now have 10 channels and more to come shortly. The rumor has it that Audison is working on a 13 channel DSP.

IMHO, I think once you sort out these questions, the power to the amps is the easy part.

Let me know as always.

Best for now.
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Greetings,

I am assuming that when you get to phase 3 of your build this will come into play. Also, do you plan to cut out the center channel speaker? And, finally, did you purchasing anything yet?

I am not too keen on keeping the factory DSP/AMP in the equation with your system. With this caliber of equipment, the cleanest path is the best. I would also make use of the digital connection between the BitOne and the Audison amps. The question becomes, do you want to keep the surround sound via the factory DSP?

If you go the Alpine 009u into the BitOne and distribute to the aftermarket amps accordingly, then natural you loose the center channel and on the BitOne you have one channel not used. Also, with the passive crossover for the fronts you want to able to take advantage of the bi-amp capabilities.

The other factor to consider is how much tuning to want to apply to the Dyno's 342 3-way speakers? The newer generation of DSP now have 10 channels and more to come shortly. The rumor has it that Audison is working on a 13 channel DSP.

IMHO, I think once you sort out these questions, the power to the amps is the easy part.

Let me know as always.

Best for now.
I have the polk center upgrade done, but when all is said and done, the surround sound and the center channel will be defunct. When we do phase 3, we will run speaker wires from the amps to the doors, completely bypassing the factory wiring. From what I understand, I can't just remove the factory amp without having issues.

Though I would prefer to use the optical out, I'm probably going with RCAs so I can hide the bitone interface and retain the steering wheel audio controls. I was thinking of wiring the 5.1k (75 W x 2 + 140 W x 2 + 600 W x 1) with the mids/highs/sub (fronts 140x2, rears 75x2, sub) and the quattro (120 W x 4) would get the mids/lows.
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I have the polk center upgrade done, but when all is said and done, the surround sound and the center channel will be defunct. When we do phase 3, we will run speaker wires from the amps to the doors, completely bypassing the factory wiring. From what I understand, I can't just remove the factory amp without having issues.

Though I would prefer to use the optical out, I'm probably going with RCAs so I can hide the bitone interface and retain the steering wheel audio controls. I was thinking of wiring the 5.1k (75 W x 2 + 140 W x 2 + 600 W x 1) with the mids/highs/sub (fronts 140x2, rears 75x2, sub) and the quattro (120 W x 4) would get the mids/lows.
Greetings,

As for the amp assignments that you are showing to distribute the power to the speakers, you are right on.

BTW, my factory amp is sitting in my closet protecting so it does collect dust.

To maintain a surround sound setup with BitOne can be done in conjuction with the factory dsp/amp. However, it will be a 5.0 setup. To accomplish this feat depends when phase 3 is going to happen. You will retain the center and rear pillar speakers on the factory dsp/amp. You will need to sum the front door and sub and that output goes to the BitOne. The surround steerling logic is not retain for the front , rear and sub channels, only for the center and rear pillar speakers. Thru the use of the BITOne's DSP, the time alignment functions, you can balance to give you a good simulation of surround for the front, rear door and sub.

To sum correctly, I would use the JL Audio Cleansweep setup and use this as the washing machine to generate the full range signal. JL Audio is supposed to come out with a new Cleansweep setup and a tuning module in the future. This would be great since everything can be put into one DSP unit. In reality you do not need the BitOne. The question is when is JL Audio releasing the unit. As with any DSP device, it always a 1 to 2 years away.

Interesting path to take.

Best for now.
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Greetings,
As for the amp assignments that you are showing to distribute the power to the speakers, you are right on.
Thank you, makes me happy to hear!

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BTW, my factory amp is sitting in my closet protecting so it does collect dust.

To maintain a surround sound setup with BitOne can be done in conjuction with the factory dsp/amp. However, it will be a 5.0 setup. To accomplish this feat depends when phase 3 is going to happen. You will retain the center and rear pillar speakers on the factory dsp/amp. You will need to sum the front door and sub and that output goes to the BitOne. The surround steerling logic is not retain for the front , rear and sub channels, only for the center and rear pillar speakers. Thru the use of the BITOne's DSP, the time alignment functions, you can balance to give you a good simulation of surround for the front, rear door and sub.
I have already purchased the BitOne. Using the front speaker is appealing but I don't know about the rear pillars, I guess I could upgrade those with similar Dynaudio speakers, but can the Alpine send the audio signal through the iDatalink AND the RCAs without losing sound quality? And if so, then would the Alpine control the volume output for both amps?
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Thank you, makes me happy to hear!



I have already purchased the BitOne. Using the front speaker is appealing but I don't know about the rear pillars, I guess I could upgrade those with similar Dynaudio speakers, but can the Alpine send the audio signal through the iDatalink AND the RCAs without losing sound quality? And if so, then would the Alpine control the volume output for both amps?
Greetings,

Sorry for the delay, I just got back.

Once an aftermarket headunit uses the low signal pre-outs, you can not also use the the other HI level outputs. Stay with Dynaaudio speakers for the rear pillar.

If you want to keep the surround and to take advantage of the BITONe, sum the fronts only, direct connect into the BITOne, the center, the rear pillar and the sub. This way you will get the ability to fine tune the channels.

Or,

Do what I did with the JBL MS-8 and use the BITOne. Now you have an awesome
setup. But you need do go with a 6 channel amp.


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