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NAV Update Method and Cost

I'm in the process of deciding on the options for a new GC Limited and was wondering how future navigation updates are performed, how much it is likely to cost and if there is a difference between the 430N and the 730N?

The salesman at the dealership thought it was done wirelessly at no cost--didn't ring true to me.

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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

Nobody really knows for sure, so I will speculate.

I guess wireless is theoretically possible if you have Uconnect Web but not really feasible considering the speed of this connection (slow), amount of data to be transferred (several gigabytes) and the fact that probably majority of owners won't have Uconnect Web.

So most likely it will be CD (or download to be burned on CD/DVD) distributed by Chrysler and/or Nav maker. Garmin already has an area on their website for updates but there is nothing on it at this time.
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

Agree with JS^. Others have suggested map update CD's are available at $200+ a pop.
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

My Honda Accord has NAV and every year I get a letter from Honda asking me to buy a CD/DVD with the map upgrades. It is listed as $150. I assume Jeep will be similar.
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

It sure would be nice if Garmin would offer a lifetime update for a reasonable price like they do for their regular Garmin units. For about $95 I bought a "lifetime" update for my Nuvi 660. New updates -- usually only map but sometimes software as well -- come out about once a quarter.
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

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It sure would be nice if Garmin would offer a lifetime update for a reasonable price like they do for their regular Garmin units. For about $95 I bought a "lifetime" update for my Nuvi 660. New updates -- usually only map but sometimes software as well -- come out about once a quarter.
That is pretty cummy, GM will send you an updates nav disc every time one is available at no cost. Atleast that is what I had in the past.
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It sure would be nice if Garmin would offer a lifetime update for a reasonable price like they do for their regular Garmin units. For about $95 I bought a "lifetime" update for my Nuvi 660. New updates -- usually only map but sometimes software as well -- come out about once a quarter.
I doubt we will see the price this low or lifetime subscription because you can't go to another provider (as opposed to buying standalone unit from another company). This will be a revenue generator for Garmin/Chrysler.

On the other hand I don't see the need to purchase updates every year.
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I'm in the process of deciding on the options for a new GC Limited and was wondering how future navigation updates are performed, how much it is likely to cost and if there is a difference between the 430N and the 730N?

The salesman at the dealership thought it was done wirelessly at no cost--didn't ring true to me.

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It is not possible to update anything in your Jeep wirelessly.

There are 3 different kinds of updates with MyGig radios:

1. Mygig software - This is updated with a CD (you can download the software yourself for free and make your own CD's (current version is 2.302)

2. Gracenotes - This software identifies your songs and new albums (also updated from a DVD and can be downloaded and installed for free (current version for North America is 2064

3. NAVTEQ map software - This software is VIN specific and costs $199 from NAVTEQ. The update is performed via CD like the others and updates POI's and new roads/ subdivisions.


I personally don't think it is neccessary to update the NAVTEQ software often but if you do it every 4 or 5 years should be sufficient. (basically one update during your ownership of the vehicle if you even have it that long)
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

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That is pretty cummy, GM will send you an updates nav disc every time one is available at no cost. Atleast that is what I had in the past.
What? GM charges $199, just like Chrysler, and have for at least 5 years.

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This make, model, and year was provided for the search. Please review this information to make sure it is correct and this is the car or truck for which you are purchasing the disc update.
Vehicle InformationYear:2006Make:ChevroletModel:TahoeThe following discs are available for your navigation system.

Navigation Disc Part No .Price Quantity 2010 Terraza/Venture/H3/Uplander/Relay/97X
Navigation Disc 20855830 $199.99
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

My guess is that the 430N and 730N will update differently. It looks like the maps for the 730N are going to need to be purchased from NAVTEQ or the dealer at $200 a pop, which (IMO) is highway robbery. In the past map updates cost that much, but now you can get 4 updates per year for a standalone unit for less than $100. I doubt they'll change this policy though- they have a captive audience, the rat bastards.

For the 430N, it remains to be seen. I'm kinda expecting to need to get them from Garmin or Chrysler, but I would be surprised if they put the screws to you in the same way.
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Re: NAV Update Method and Cost

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Nobody really knows for sure, so I will speculate.

I guess wireless is theoretically possible if you have Uconnect Web but not really feasible considering the speed of this connection (slow), amount of data to be transferred (several gigabytes) and the fact that probably majority of owners won't have Uconnect Web.

So most likely it will be CD (or download to be burned on CD/DVD) distributed by Chrysler and/or Nav maker. Garmin already has an area on their website for updates but there is nothing on it at this time.
I just bought a 15 GC Altitude , they all come nav cable, but the dealer simply has to call, get a code and input it into the car, the software is then directly activated. I assure you it won't be free, it will likely cost around 550. In a nutshell it would be no different than if t=you ordered from the factory and the pricing
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I doubt we will see the price this low or lifetime subscription because you can't go to another provider (as opposed to buying standalone unit from another company). This will be a revenue generator for Garmin/Chrysler.
I question this in reality.

I have to wonder what percentage of buyers even bother to update their systems unless there is something obviously out of date. Not only that, what's the incentive to upgrade anything on a leased vehicle you'll be trading in sometime in the near future.

If it were free and could be done automatically in the owner's garage via Wi-Fi, you might give more people the incentive to upgrade to the Nav system which is quite a premium over the base system (anywhere from $900 to $1200 sticker, depending on whether it's active from the factory or by the dealer).


I personally know that should the foolishness we're seeing with HERE continue long term, I'll seriously consider avoiding the Nav upgrade. The result? Not only am I not paying for updates, but I'm not even paying for the hardware upgrade. The lose twice.


The fact is, if the experience is crummy by being both expensive and lacking frequent updates, it makes using the smart phone already in your pocket a far more attractive option. Propriety systems are dinosaurs and we're coming up on a major pushback from consumers - I guarantee it.

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On the other hand I don't see the need to purchase updates every year.
...and it doesn't appear Chrysler even will offer them that often.

It's sad that they charge such a premium over cheaper and free options that update sometimes weekly.
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