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Old 06-05-2016, 09:02 PM
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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I don't think so. To get new maps they want $2-300, so it is never worth updating....
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:18 PM
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Re: Navigation worth it?

I stand corrected, map updates have gotten cheaper. Still not worth it in my mind, but to each their own.
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Re: Navigation worth it?

I have it & use it all the time. I would never have a vehicle without one.
If you have it activated by a dealer there is no reason why you shouldn't have the latest up to date maps and all features. But I would ask your dealer to tell you what features you have.
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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I have it & use it all the time. I would never have a vehicle without one.
If you have it activated by a dealer there is no reason why you shouldn't have the latest up to date maps and all features. But I would ask your dealer to tell you what features you have.
From that link that Paullee01 posted, it seems like i can activate it from home. I'm not sure still, seems like some are saying yes, others are saying no. Has anyone activated it and have been able to use 3d mapping or is it just all 2d?
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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From that link that Paullee01 posted, it seems like i can activate it from home. I'm not sure still, seems like some are saying yes, others are saying no. Has anyone activated it and have been able to use 3d mapping or is it just all 2d?
According to the info on Uconnect, you will not be able to get 3D unless you have the RA4 radio. So the straight answer is you will not be able to get 3d mapping.

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Re: Navigation worth it?

I find Waze to be an add-on not a replacement for in-dash navigation. Strike that, a cell phone is not a replacement for in-dash navigation.

Yes - cost is certainly THE one aspect that people always try to bring up and the map updates. True valid points. Especially the alerts you get with Waze.

However, cell phone service sucks in certain places. It sucks around Addison and I-90 in the middle of Chicago. It sucks for about 2.5 hours between Eau Claire Wisconsin and Madison Wisconsin. It sucks along the lake front in Racine County, Wisconsin, 70 miles from Chicago and 30 from Milwaukee. It sucks in Northwest Indiana. And that is just the last 30 days of suckage via T-Mobile. So no Waze updates around there. And no Navi. I last drove the Jeep out west in 2013 (I own a 2014 MY). Over the vast expanses out West - Wyoming, South Dakota, cell phone service was at best 2G and for hours...no signal. That might depend on the carrier as well, but generally speaking no data via either T-Mobile or the Sprint HotSpot in the car. No data,no maps. No Waze. NO WAY.

Then there's the wires and the mounting. I love hanging things on my dashboard or vents, things that can potentially fly out into the car if I drive over bumps, potholes, or if I break harder. I personally love wires.

So when you have no Waze, you're stuck with either a pre-cached Google Map or with off-line maps like Here and Sygic. Which i own but irrespective of the navi application, urban canyons or natural canyons upset the GPS signal. No matter how good the assisted GPS feature is, in downtown Chicago I cannot fully rely on cell phone navigation even for foot travel. Rest assured, here in Chicago we certainly allow drivers to spin around in an intersection, for the phone to pick up signal and finally, 2 minutes later, display in the correct direction. But you guessed it, Chicagoans are different folk. There's a reason why the GPS antenna is on the roof on most cars, and not inside the dashboard, behind glass and metal. Though yes, some cars have it there from the factory.

Looking at the LG G3 screen is not as rewarding as the 8.4 inch (more like 7 due to the upper and lower buttons) and the in-dash directional arrow. Plus one can also multi-task with more relative ease and safety: such as talking on the phone and navigating.

My philosophy is simple: cell phone navigation is for when you travel to a foreign city/country and you rent a (cheap) car w/o navi. For personal-owned vehicles, in-built navi is a must.
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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I've used mine from Bar Harbor Maine to South Everglades FL and it has never let me down. It has correctly taken me many offbeat places that I would have never found without it. The good it has done has far outstripped the few errors or roads it couldn't find. Can always use your phone, but it's a lot better to see where you are going on the big screen and use your phone for other functions.
Also a chance in remote spots that you will not have phone service.. then what?? Never had not had NAV service....
Hmm... Did I not just say that??
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Re: Navigation worth it?

I think it is. We bought ours with the RA4 so no need to pay to flip the switch. While my phone is much more accurate and has fresher maps, the factory nav still works for areas without cell reception and areas that are established and haven't changed much. Anytime I go to downtown LA I use the factory system since there are so many interchanges and high chance to end up going the wrong direction, so the integrated system works out better for me. I also think it's safer not having to glance at my phone's small screen.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:08 PM
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Re: Navigation worth it?

Up in the mountains around here, the Jeep nav runs circles around all cell based devices and apps. Here's my take after using the Jeep nav for a year.
  • The GPS receiver has more channels, higher sensitivity, and better antenna location.
  • The maps require no data connection.
  • There are forest service roads on the Jeep nav (though taken as a rough list of routes that *might* exist rather than actual routes)
  • Jeep requires no recharging or cables.
  • Jeep nav ties in with the Sirius Travel Link and Yelp for nav to fuel, food, etc.
  • Traffic alerts on the Jeep nav via Sirius Travel Link are sometimes given much sooner for the route than Waze.

That said, it still makes some inexplicable routing decisions in construction areas or recently built/changed areas. That's where Waze comes in. I use both. Use the right tool for the job.
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Re: Navigation worth it?

I'm guessing I'm starting to consider it now. I can live without the 3D view of buildings and what not
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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I'm guessing I'm starting to consider it now. I can live without the 3D view of buildings and what not
To be honest, I haven't been that impressed with the 3D view anyway. It seems to take awhile to load and only covers the downtown of major cities so I find that I'm quickly back to 2D view with most routes I take. Obviously since you're from NY, it could be a lot more helpful to you than 99% of us but I don't think it's the "make or break" feature. What I like most (as has been mentioned a couple times previously) is the big 8.4" screen/map and the integration into the instrument cluster.
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Re: Navigation worth it?

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To be honest, I haven't been that impressed with the 3D view anyway. It seems to take awhile to load and only covers the downtown of major cities so I find that I'm quickly back to 2D view with most routes I take. Obviously since you're from NY, it could be a lot more helpful to you than 99% of us but I don't think it's the "make or break" feature. What I like most (as has been mentioned a couple times previously) is the big 8.4" screen/map and the integration into the instrument cluster.
Exactly, looking at my small iPhone screen is getting annoying, plus I don't have anywhere to really mount it as I usually just keep it in the arm rest draw
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