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Old 05-18-2015, 08:55 PM
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I wish you could do a Google search from your phone for an address or location and then transfer it to the Uconnect to use the navigation. Finding a business on the navigation is not very efficient and most times doesn't bring up a hit anyway. I like the turn by turn navigation once a destination is entered though.


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supposedly they're working on a feature for the 15's to send addresses from your phone. But it's not clear if they'll allow 3rd party apps to "share" to the uconnect app or if one would be required to use the horrible app directly.

I noticed today that the app will complain that you can't use it while driving once paired to the radio- and I have an inmotion hack on my uconnect...

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Old 05-19-2015, 10:01 AM
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Other than that it might be useful if I ever lock the keys in the car.
How would you ever lock your keys in the car? On the 2015, it's a proximity key.

If it's in the car, just grab the handle and open the door. It's just like having it in your pocket at that point.

At any rate, it would be nice if you could use a registered phone as a backup key fob, though. Just press a button in the app to enable it for that session, type in your pin and the system will link up with it as soon as it wakes up and pairs via bluetooth.

That way, if you accidentally drop your keys in the lake while boating, you can get back home to get your other fob - or get to the dealer to buy one.

That's a feature I might be willing to pay for.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:22 AM
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How would you ever lock your keys in the car? On the 2015, it's a proximity key.

If it's in the car, just grab the handle and open the door. It's just like having it in your pocket at that point.

My dealer was able to lock my SRT keys in the car so that I could pick it up after hours with my other key fob. He just left the keys above the visor. Maybe he knows of a trick or maybe my Jeep was just ripe for the taking. 😳


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My dealer was able to lock my SRT keys in the car so that I could pick it up after hours with my other key fob. He just left the keys above the visor. Maybe he knows of a trick or maybe my Jeep was just ripe for the taking. ��
I'm just not sure how that would be possible.

If the fob is in the Jeep, it should open the door when you grab the handle. It doesn't care where it is, as long as it's in range. If he could lock it to prevent it from sensing one fob, the other wouldn't work, either.

I'd bet anyone could have walked up and opened the door. I'm not sure your dealer even really thought it through.

It sounds like all he did was put the fob under the visor, then manually locked the doors with the buttons on the doors. That doesn't do anything to prevent that fob from letting someone in.

To stop that from happening, he would have had to enclose it in a foil bag of some kind.
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Well I don't know who is the bigger fool. Him for not knowing or me for trusting him. Luckily I made it there while the sales dept. was still open. I guess.


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I'm just not sure how that would be possible.

If the fob is in the Jeep, it should open the door when you grab the handle. It doesn't care where it is, as long as it's in range. If he could lock it to prevent it from sensing one fob, the other wouldn't work, either.

I'd bet anyone could have walked up and opened the door. I'm not sure your dealer even really thought it through.

It sounds like all he did was put the fob under the visor, then manually locked the doors with the buttons on the doors. That doesn't do anything to prevent that fob from letting someone in.

To stop that from happening, he would have had to enclose it in a foil bag of some kind.
Actually the keys need to be more specific than “near the vehicle” as the antenna system knows if you are in the vehicle and I believe even knows if you are on the driver’s side or passenger side.

If you leave the keys in the vehicle and then try to lock it you get honked at and it wont do it. There’s a way to override and lock the keys in but im too lazy to look in the book right now- it may just be if you walk away that after a certain time it locks the keys in as a theft deterrent. My wife has managed to lock her set of keys in my Durango. (although i will be honest i never then tried to grab the handle without my key nearby to try)

I also think it knows left from right as I happened to need to drive the family in the wife’s town and country last night- wife got in passenger side with her key and it let me start the car, but when we got to where we were going I got out drivers side and she got out passenger. I tried to use the lock button on drivers handle and it wouldn’t do it. When wife got around to my side of the car it worked. I assume the JGC/Durango is the same but am not certain.
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At any rate, it would be nice if you could use a registered phone as a backup key fob, though. Just press a button in the app to enable it for that session, type in your pin and the system will link up with it as soon as it wakes up and pairs via bluetooth.
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That's a feature I might be willing to pay for.
Delphi's add on OBDII dongle does just that. Delphi Connect

It has WAY more features then Uconnect and is a bunch older- so pathetic we dont at least have the same feature set. It also only costs $10/month on verizon or metroPCS ($5 to delphi and $5 to the carrier)- which also gets into your family shared data plan to give you an always on 4g hotspot if you would like.

Uconnect is third rate.
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Actually the keys need to be more specific than “near the vehicle” as the antenna system knows if you are in the vehicle and I believe even knows if you are on the driver’s side or passenger side.



If you leave the keys in the vehicle and then try to lock it you get honked at and it wont do it. There’s a way to override and lock the keys in but im too lazy to look in the book right now- it may just be if you walk away that after a certain time it locks the keys in as a theft deterrent. My wife has managed to lock her set of keys in my Durango. (although i will be honest i never then tried to grab the handle without my key nearby to try)



I also think it knows left from right as I happened to need to drive the family in the wife’s town and country last night- wife got in passenger side with her key and it let me start the car, but when we got to where we were going I got out drivers side and she got out passenger. I tried to use the lock button on drivers handle and it wouldn’t do it. When wife got around to my side of the car it worked. I assume the JGC/Durango is the same but am not certain.

Thanks. I'm going to try monkeying around with it tonight. Now I'm to intrigued to let this go. I'm still not 100% sold on this keyless ignition stuff. I keep leaving my wife in the running jeep as I get gas or quick run into a store and forget to leave the darn key in the vehicle. The beeping drives her crazing and when I notice she has shut off the vehicle upon my return, I know I'm in for an ear full.


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Actually the keys need to be more specific than “near the vehicle” as the antenna system knows if you are in the vehicle and I believe even knows if you are on the driver’s side or passenger side.

If you leave the keys in the vehicle and then try to lock it you get honked at and it wont do it. There’s a way to override and lock the keys in but im too lazy to look in the book right now- it may just be if you walk away that after a certain time it locks the keys in as a theft deterrent. My wife has managed to lock her set of keys in my Durango. (although i will be honest i never then tried to grab the handle without my key nearby to try)

I also think it knows left from right as I happened to need to drive the family in the wife’s town and country last night- wife got in passenger side with her key and it let me start the car, but when we got to where we were going I got out drivers side and she got out passenger. I tried to use the lock button on drivers handle and it wouldn’t do it. When wife got around to my side of the car it worked. I assume the JGC/Durango is the same but am not certain.
You can override it by simply using the manual inside switches.

The point here is, regardless of where the key is (inside or out), if the key is in proximity, all you have to do is grab the door handle and it will perform the unlock function - even if it's already unlocked.

Therefore, anyone can get in your vehicle and start it.
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You can override it by simply using the manual inside switches.

The point here is, regardless of where the key is (inside or out), if the key is in proximity, all you have to do is grab the door handle and it will perform the unlock function - even if it's already unlocked.

Therefore, anyone can get in your vehicle and start it.
I'm at work so not going to try leaving the key inside to test- someone else will need to confirm. But i checked the outside.


I took a walk to the lot to play some with the outside positioning as i was curious if it's the same as the T&C. On my Durango (assuming JGC the same)- the key has to be on the same side as the door. It can not be on the other side. I even placed the keys on the windshield right by the driver's rear view mirror to walk to the passenger door- even there the drivers door would not unlock. So the fob needs to be on the drivers side for the drivers door handle to unlock or on the passanger side for the passenger handle to unlock.

If i recall it's all related to (sharing) the tire pressure monitoring system. There are several antennas and the system uses the various antennas to figure out the location of each tire so even if you rotate them it understands where the tire is.

the key can't just be in the general vicinity.
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Ok. You can lock your keys in the JGC. I just put my keys above the driver side visor and double tapped the interior door lock button. Sure enough it locked.

Oh, and it would NOT open without using the other key fob.


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Ok. You can lock your keys in the JGC. I just put my keys above the driver side visor and double tapped the interior door lock button. Sure enough it locked.

Oh, and it would NOT open without using the other key fob.


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from my user manual

(Again haven’t tried to check. And this is a Durango)

If the fob is in the vehicle and no other keys are outside the vehicle and you try to lock the door the horn honks 3 times and it unlocks all doors.

On a third attempt the vehicle will let you lock the key in the vehicle. (from the above sounds like a double tap of the inside button also locks 'er up)
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