Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > Audio/Visual/Navigation

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #1  
Old 05-09-2011, 06:41 PM
Sharptail's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Edmonton, AB. CA.
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 1103
Sharptail is on a distinguished road
Possible new feature proposal - Input please.

If you are like me, you like to carry a digital camera while you are out exploring in your Jeep. After all, the Jeep will carry you to some very scenic locations. Once in a while you might fill up your camera's memory card. If you don't have another card with you, then you have to stop shooting until you can transfer the photos to a computer. If only you had a portable storage device which would temporarily hold your photos, then you could erase the memory card and keep shooting...

The new Jeep Grand Cherokee (and other Chrysler vehicles) can be equipped with either the Media Center 430, 430N or 730N, all of which offer plenty of user accessible hard drive storage space. Any of these radios will read and transfer JPEG photo files directly from a camera to the hard drive through the USB port *. They will even allow you to view the photos. They will NOT allow you to recover photos from the hard drive at a later time. JPEG files can be deleted, but not copied back on to a memory stick. The hard drive acts as a one way device. This is unfortunate and should be rectified by the addition of a feature which allows you to transfer JPEG picture files from the hard drive to the USB port.

The radio's hardware supports two way file transfer. The dealer's StarSCAN tool will allow the backup of the entire drive via the USB port. The problem is that the end user software interface has no provision to copy files from the hard drive. One should not have to buy a StarSCAN tool to do this.

We are all cognizant of copyright infringement issues regarding music files. However, there are no such copyright considerations when dealing with photos you take with your own camera. Moreover, the radios already "know" the difference between the various music file formats and JPEG picture files. It should be a relatively simple matter to provide end user software that would allow the transfer of files other than music files to a USB memory stick. Legal issues should not be an impediment to implementing this feature.

Of course you could always buy a portable backup device for your camera (or simply remember to bring along additional memory cards). Why should you have to when your Media Center is already equipped with a hard drive, USB port and viewing screen? All that is missing is a little bit of software to allow the recovery of your photos.

If you use the iPod integration feature of your radio for music storage and playback, then the hard drive space contained in the radios becomes redundant. Your ability to utilize the hardware you paid for is limited by the inability to recover any stored files .

It is likely possible for Chrysler to implement a "transfer pictures to USB" feature via a software update for existing customers, as well as providing the feature in new vehicles. This feature could enhance Chrysler's brand names and differentiate them in the marketplace. Customer satisfaction in the important infotainment area may increase and help promote sales. Many people own digital cameras. It is difficult to imagine a downside to this feature.

Do you think Chrysler should consider adding the ability to recover picture files stored on the existing Media Center hard drives? Would you make use of this feature? Would you be satisfied with JPEG file transfer only, or would you like the ability to deal with other types of files as well? In what context? Thank you for your consideration and response.

* Tested using a Nikon D200 in mass storage mode connected to the in-dash USB port with the Nikon USB cable. Most consumer cameras should work this way.


Sharptail
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-18-2011, 11:06 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2011 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Rivergrove, OR
Posts: 576
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 10443
Andrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Klossner has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Possible new feature proposal - Input please.

The USB ports in these head units are USB 1.1 not USB 2.0, so they run 40 times slower than a port in a modern PC. That's plenty fast enough to run an iPod, but it would take nine hours to copy 30 gigabytes into or out of the radio's hard disk.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-18-2011, 11:31 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 499
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 31473
77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute77rednecktruck has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Possible new feature proposal - Input please.

I either carry my laptop with me to dump the SD card from my camera onto when I fill it or my tablet if it's a small amount. It would be nice to have that feature but I don't know how much I would use it.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-18-2011, 05:18 PM
Sharptail's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Edmonton, AB. CA.
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 1103
Sharptail is on a distinguished road
Re: Possible new feature proposal - Input please.

LOL! Over 100 readers before a response, that's gotta be some kind of record.

I guess I spent too much time in the industry. It just bugs me to see a one way hard drive. Sure, there are many other ways to back up a camera card (I have most of them) but I still think that a "transfer from HD" function should have been included. It's not like it would have cost a lot to implement.

I was unaware that the system uses USB 1.1. Slow or not, when the day comes that I need some storage space and don't have any handy, I will be looking at the radio and cursing the designers of the system.

Thanks for the feedback, it helps me to stay in touch with the real world.


Sharptail
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community