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Unable to update GPS software to 3.0

I have '11 WK2 with 430N.

Followed instructions but GPS software just won't update to 3.0.

I always get "PND didn't update" and I am never prompted to update GPS software to 3.0. The rest of the software updates fine.

Does anyone have any ideas?

PS Don't use DVD to burn firmware - it will cause soft brick (just like described in the post above but I didn't notice). Or at least it did for me. The fix is to burn firmware to CD and use it (I initially used USB drive but GPS didn't update, so I tried DVD because couldn't find CD-R media immediately).

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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

To access the service/engineer mode on a 2013/2014. Shut off the deck to the Black screen with the clock.


Press and hold for a few seconds 3 buttons ... on the left side. the Media and Radio button and on the Right, the Menu buttons at the same time.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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To access the service/engineer mode on a 2013/2014. Shut off the deck to the Black screen with the clock.


Press and hold for a few seconds 3 buttons ... on the left side. the Media and Radio button and on the Right, the Menu buttons at the same time.
Tried that and reset PND via this menu. Didn't help.

There was also something called "initialize the hard drive" a level above PND in that menu, system-level like. I decided I don't want to try this one.

I give up. It is just not that important considering Google Maps and another mapping software with standalone maps I have on my phone (Copilot Premium, maps are updated for free several times a year).
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

Worth a try!
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Worth a try!
Can you elaborate? What's worth a try?

Have you seen this issue discussed elsewhere and/or resolved?
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

v33.02.01 applied and 2016.10 applied...

But now I find that there is a 2016.10 revision.
Minor, but hey, might as well do it before going back to v50 software.
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v33.02.01 applied and 2016.10 applied...

But now I find that there is a 2016.10 revision.
Minor, but hey, might as well do it before going back to v50 software.
So you were able to upgrade your GPS software to 3.0? What source did you burn your "OS" image from?
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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So you were able to upgrade your GPS software to 3.0? What source did you burn your "OS" image from?
Check IHEFF's second post in this thread.
At the bottom of the post he says he posted a zip file of the CD files "here" (hover of the word to see it's a link).

He removed the map update since legally he paid for that and shouldn't be sharing it, but the radio update is no big deal to share. People have been sharing the radio updates for years since FCA is so lax about providing them. They sent me one in my first year of ownership, the rest I've found on various forums.

I downloaded the zip, extracted it to it's own folder and compared the content structure to a previous update disk I had.
I made the structure look the same and then used InfraRecorder to burn the folder contents to a CDROM.
InfraRecorder

The maps....
Well, check out the link to the JK forums posted above about obtaining map updates.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Check IHEFF's second post in this thread.
At the bottom of the post he says he posted a zip file of the CD files "here" (hover of the word to see it's a link).

He removed the map update since legally he paid for that and shouldn't be sharing it, but the radio update is no big deal to share. People have been sharing the radio updates for years since FCA is so lax about providing them. They sent me one in my first year of ownership, the rest I've found on various forums.

I downloaded the zip, extracted it to it's own folder and compared the content structure to a previous update disk I had.
I made the structure look the same and then used InfraRecorder to burn the folder contents to a CDROM.
InfraRecorder

The maps....
Well, check out the link to the JK forums posted above about obtaining map updates.
Yes, I used what IHEFF posted. But I didn't modify structure in any way.

Would it be possible for you to make an ISO (as opposed to archive of all files on it) of the disc that worked for you and post that? Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2015, 01:39 PM
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Re: Unable to update GPS software to 3.0

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I have '11 WK2 with 430N.

Followed instructions but GPS software just won't update to 3.0.

I always get "PND didn't update" and I am never prompted to update GPS software to 3.0. The rest of the software updates fine.

Does anyone have any ideas?

PS Don't use DVD to burn firmware - it will cause soft brick (just like described in the post above but I didn't notice). Or at least it did for me. The fix is to burn firmware to CD and use it (I initially used USB drive but GPS didn't update, so I tried DVD because couldn't find CD-R media immediately).
#1 - I've always used only CDROMs for radio firmware updates, then I use a Class 10 microSD card in a USB adapter for map updates (due to the large size of the map files). Another important tip, when burning the CDROM always use the slowest speed possible by your CD burner.

#2 - When updating the radio firmware, the "PND did not update" message is normal due to the fact that the firmware only updates do not have map updates included.

To be honest...
I forgot to check what my GPS software version is at.
[EDIT: Checked today while doing some yard work... My Garmin software is at v3.]
I ran the v33.02.01 radio firmware update (actually downgrade since I was at v50, but v50 doesn't allow map updates for some strange reason) and then used my microSD/USB combo to upgrade to the 2016.10 revised map upgrade (including the JCV/junctions file).

Prior to the v33.02.01 I could only go up to 2014.40 Garmin maps. Any attempt to try a later map update failed. My understanding is that Garmin changed the format of their map update 'img' files so that the older software in the radio did not 'understand' the new 'img' files.

Once I had the maps updated to the latest/greatest, then I upgraded the radio firmware again to v50 (I like the dark theme better than the blue theme in the v33 update).

I keep the v33.02.01 and v50 CDROMs because if I want to update maps again, I'll need to downgrade to v33, apply the map update, then upgrade again to v50.

Yes, it's a pain, but I've not had any problems to date and I've done the radio downgrade/upgrade process a number of times.

The radio downgrade or upgrade process takes about 20 minutes.
The map updates (with my Class10 microSD/USB device) takes about 1 hour and I don't run the engine.

I have the push button start. I push it twice with my foot OFF the brake so it goes to the 'run' condition and then I turn off everything that isn't needed (like HVAC) and set an alarm for 25 minutes. If you have the push button start, with the vehicle in the 'run' condition and the engine not running the vehicle will power down at 30 minutes. I set the alarm so I can go back out to the Jeep and power it back up immediately so the update is not interrupted.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Yes, I used what IHEFF posted. But I didn't modify structure in any way.

Would it be possible for you to make an ISO (as opposed to archive of all files on it) of the disc that worked for you and post that? Thanks.
Joe,

Send me a PM with a GMail address and I can share a link with you to my G-Drive to download the ISO (GMail addresses work best with G-Drive).

Note that this ISO is the radio update only, you are on your own for the maps update, but following the JKForums thread mentioned earlier should help you out to find the map updates if you want (piece of advice... register at GPSUnderground).

If you are currently at a radio software version earlier than v23, you should update to v23 first, then v33.
I have the v23 update up on G-Drive also.

Then if you prefer a black/dark-green theme rather than blue, after updating the maps you can go to v50 (which I also have up on my G-Drive).

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