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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Some awesome info on this thread, thanks! I was able to use the info here to load 2016.10 as a Supplemental map (no junction views), but since I have a 2013 RHB, I still can't load them as gmapprom.img. The maps that Here/Garmin would like me to purchase for $150 +$30 shipping are several versions old, and too many 2013 RHB owners are having issues installing them.

I wanted to compile some notes from my experiences for anyone who may be using the 2013 version of the RHB and are trying to upgrade their maps. I've been chasing the map update issue for awhile myself and have gathered some information from this site, the Wrangler forum, and a couple other sites and wanted to share. I have some questions at the bottom as well.

Some background info - my RHB came loaded with 44.xx.xx (or something like that). I upgraded to 50.00.07 some time ago, then to 50.01.01 recently. My OEM maps were from 2013. I don't have the exact name of the mapfile.

As some folks have already found out, the later versions of the RHB (2013 as far as I've read) are having issues with map updates. In one instance I had seen on a Chrysler forum, a 2013 user found that the GMA file for the gmapprom.img file is required for the map to actually load. Without the proper GMA file (gmapprom.gma) you aren't going to get it to work on a 2013. The GMA files are encrypted. Now whether or not this is accurate, I can't be sure, but it makes sense, since I've tried all the methods that 2011-2012 RHB owners have had success with, and I have no luck. No matter which version of firmware I downgrade to (50.xx.xx, 44.xx.xx, 33.xx.xx) the Garmin firmware stays the same RHB15 and 5.11, and I'm guessing its the Garmin firmware blocking my attempts - looking for the GMA file. If someone has had a different experience, please chime in.

A word of caution for 2013 RHB owners - When I downgraded to 33.xx.xx, then tried to come back up to 50.xx.xx, the RHB went into a boot loop. I found a solution on a Chrysler forum from another user who had this idea that proved to save my radio. During the boot loop, the only thing working was the DVD door. Following the other poster's steps, I burned the 50.01.01 firmware to a CD - not a DVD - and stuck it in. The radio proceeded to come out of the boot loop and complete the firmware upgrade...I didnt have to tell the Admiral that I just killed her radio.

Anyway as I said above, I had some limited success with the map upgrade over with weekend. I've always received the "map update failed" message no matter which mapset I tried. I was however able to load the 2016.10 map as a Supplemental (20 min on a USB stick) and the system actually defaults to it. The OEM map doesnt appear in the maps menu but its still there according to the xml file (interestingly, the 2016.10 are not found in the xml file). When I look at "Map Info" on screen, only the 2016.10 is listed. Another word of caution - for those of you who like Junction Views - they would NOT load for me. I didnt think they would, as I dont believe map files you load as supplemental maps will make use of them. I asked the Admiral before the update if she'd rather have up-to-date maps or 3 year old maps with Junction Views. She went for the update. The gmapprom file already contains built-in lane assist, and that was fine with her. We verified the new mapset is being used when we went for a drive on Sunday by noting that new roads show up, and no junction views appear. I have screenshots of the update process if anyone has questions or needs any info. To load as a supplemental, the filename needs to be gmapsupp.img in the Garmin folder.

I'm continuing to look into this. I'd like to find out how to remove the Supplemental maps (just because). From another forum - On the Chrysler CTP radio, you remove files by creating a "Disabled" folder on the root of the USB stick and adding files/subfolders you want removed into "Disabled". I haven't tried it yet to see if it works on the RHB.

I hope someone finds some of this info useful. I also have two questions...

1) has anyone ever figured out a way to access "engineering mode" on the 2013 RHB 430N? Holding down on the speed circle doesnt work. I also posted another thread for that question.

2) Does anyone have a 2013 RHB with the stock maps? If you go to Map info, you'll see a map name something like "OEM 2013 North America" but could you give me the exact name? I unfortunately didnt take a screenshot of this, and I wonder if the map name may have something to do with the upgrade failing. Probably not, but worth a look. you can use GMap Tool to change the names of the img files on a PC.

Thanks!
Hey Mike, any update on this? I too have a 2013 GC with an RHB 430N and I can't get it to update either.

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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get the garmin 2017.20 files from gmap format to an img format? For some reason mine seem to be in gmap, and i was expecting img, and the unit doesn't appear to like/recognize that.

That, or if someone wants to pm a link to a good img file, that would be helpful as well.

EDIT: Disregard, I either downloaded the wrong file(s) or they got corrupted - re-downloaded and they extracted as an image as required.
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Hey Mike, any update on this? I too have a 2013 GC with an RHB 430N and I can't get it to update either.
Mike and Hooked,

May not be relevant to you, but I spent 4 days troubleshooting an upgrade issue and then discovered I had the wrong ver 33. It must be 33.02.01. If you have version 33.01.xx, the upgrade will fail.

I have a 2011 wk2 rhb430.

Got the correct 33.02.01 and it upgraded just like it's supposed to.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Mike and Hooked,

May not be relevant to you, but I spent 4 days troubleshooting an upgrade issue and then discovered I had the wrong ver 33. It must be 33.02.01. If you have version 33.01.xx, the upgrade will fail.

I have a 2011 wk2 rhb430.

Got the correct 33.02.01 and it upgraded just like it's supposed to.
thanks for the update however, I am at 50.00..07 I believe and I've had no luck with updating so far. I have a 2013 rhb430n.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

I am new and i have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Altitude unlimited that has the 430N (RHB My2012) and i would like to update to teh 2016 map. does anyone still have the ISO that they can drop box me?

Thanks
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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thanks for the update however, I am at 50.00..07 I believe and I've had no luck with updating so far. I have a 2013 rhb430n.
mid-2013 and above RHB/430N radios have to load the new maps as 'supplemental' maps, but it should use the newer maps.

mid-2013 and OLDER can simply replace the old img with the new img file.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

is there instructions on how to do that? Thanks in advance!
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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I am new and i have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Altitude unlimited that has the 430N (RHB My2012) and i would like to update to teh 2016 map. does anyone still have the ISO that they can drop box me?

Thanks
I think SOX still has it on his site.
You can search the forums for his site and login info.

Otherwise PM me an email address (GMail works best) and I can 'share' the v33.02.01 and v50 ISO images.

Burn each to a CDROM (at the slowest setting your burner will go).
Upgrade to v33.02.01 (and update maps), then upgrade to v50 to get away from that god-awful blue color scheme to the v50 black theme.

OH, and you do NOT have to idle your vehicle for the updates.
I've updated mine in the middle of MN winter without idling the vehicle and never killed my battery.
If you have the push button start, leave your foot off the brake and push the button twice to go to 'run' mode (not accessory) and then turn off your HVAC system and upgrade (so only the radio is on, the fuel pump will shut off after a couple minutes). Set a timer... The Jeep will shut down after 30 minutes which will interrupt the update, just cycle through off-accessory-run and reset your timer.
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

ok, thank you Todd3.6. i will pm you shortly!
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

Following site has ISO images of ALL the firmware versions, as well as the current JCV file...

https://mega.nz/#F!1hEVBQ7L!Wi55FLQD0HCQ8lE7N-YTIg

ENJOY!

PS: For those not able to run the firmware upgrade from USB:
Are you starting it correctly?
You should:
1) Put car into "Start" with radio OFF
2) Insert USB into Radio
3) Turn radio ON
4) Should start firmware process from USB within a few seconds!
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

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Following site has ISO images of ALL the firmware versions, as well as the current JCV file...

https://mega.nz/#F!1hEVBQ7L!Wi55FLQD0HCQ8lE7N-YTIg

ENJOY!

PS: For those not able to run the firmware upgrade from USB:
Are you starting it correctly?
You should:
1) Put car into "Start" with radio OFF
2) Insert USB into Radio
3) Turn radio ON
4) Should start firmware process from USB within a few seconds!

Do i just leave the rar files on the Jump Drive?
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Re: RHB 430N Update to City Navigator NT 2016.10

Also i updated but my PNG did not update.

What does that mean?
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