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Old 08-12-2012, 03:55 PM
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Depends where you live I suppose. Most cops around here use Ka and I still see plenty of cops with just K.
You really didn't read my whole post. Doesn't matter if police are using radar or not. They can turn off the radar and turn it on just as fast or faster than what your detector can pick up that you have been hit.

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Radar detector doesn't work well if you are the only car on the road. My detectors will pick up the cops doing the on/off thing a mile away.
Hills and curves will limit the range of the detector, even the best detectors can not overcome that. Besides, a smart cop will not turn on his/her radar when there is a group of cars.... can't get out in traffic safely to get after them anyway.
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:08 PM
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I really don't think they're worth it. As a cop we know people use them and our practices reflect it. We don't turn our radar's on until the vehicle is in full view and then it's too late for the vehicle to slow down. Also, if you have a RD in the vehicle, its a sure ticket. Also, as mentioned, it doesn't help at all if the officer is using laser.
My department hardly uses radar anymore. It's a dying technology.
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

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Old 08-12-2012, 08:22 PM
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

I hear the WK2 side radars set the valentine one detectors off, and if you configure the valentine to avoid the nuisance, it loses its sensitivity. I don't think the more expensive escorts have that issue.

I gave up on radar detectors years ago.
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

My escort has definitely paid for itself. I don't know where they actually use laser or what cops turn them off/on like everyone is saying but def not in Chicagoland where I drive. Buy a v1 or escort. Speaking from experience, it is well worth the money. Seems Ka is what everyone uses here.
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

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I really don't think they're worth it. As a cop we know people use them and our practices reflect it. We don't turn our radar's on until the vehicle is in full view and then it's too late for the vehicle to slow down. Also, if you have a RD in the vehicle, its a sure ticket. Also, as mentioned, it doesn't help at all if the officer is using laser.

I do wish that speed traps would just go away. We need to get away from revenue based traffic laws. Every time I see a police car hidden in the bushes I cannot help but think the department is overstaffed by at least one.

If safety is truly the goal then focus where it will do the most good. Go after fools who tailgate, don't signal or text while driving. Set speed limits based not on on revenue or the lowest common denominator dolts, but on the engineering driven 85th percentile. When 90% of traffic exceeds the posted limit, and by no small margin, the problem isn't with the drivers. Of course, German style licensing would help as well. No more "got a pulse, get a license" nonsense. Hiding in the bushes is great for revenue, but does little to stop the truly bad drivers.

As you may surmise I have a bit of an issue with traffic law enforcement as a means of revenue & fund it another example of a nanny state run amok. Police work is ago honorable profession & should not be reduced to hiding in the bushes waiting to harvest the ignorant.

This said, I prefer the Valentine One as the directional arrows & sensitivity are first rate. Customer service is outstanding.
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

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My department only get $35 per ticket given. IF the person fights the ticket then my department have to pay 2 hours of overtime for the officer to go to court. Most of the times, we are breaking even on a ticket or losing money on the deal (only if it goes to court). Don't like it, tough. The last drunk driver was originally stopped for.... yep, you guessed it, speeding.
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Besides, a smart cop .
I guess we don't have many smart ones here in North Carolina. I've never been hit by an instant on K or Ka that I didn't know about well in advance; not once. With my detector the only thing that catches me by surprise is laser.
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My department only get $35 per ticket given. IF the person fights the ticket then my department have to pay 2 hours of overtime for the officer to go to court. Most of the times, we are breaking even on a ticket or losing money on the deal (only if it goes to court). Don't like it, tough. The last drunk driver was originally stopped for.... yep, you guessed it, speeding.
The law generally disfavors pretext stops. Traffic laws should not be a means to revenue or gateway to other stops. Harsh as I wish to be on drunks, I cannot sanction stopping people on mere suspicion. Your department may make little, but states and towns make an enormous sum.

Policing is, or should be, too dignified to allow trained officers to hide in the bushes. If safety is truly the goal, the higher levels of driver training and more active patrolling to stop the tailgaters & weavers would be the norm. Hiding in the bushes is great for money, yet does little else. No disrespect intended as I firmly believe law enforcement should be above such nonsense. Were speed limits set by engineers and a reasonable man standard as opposed to arbitrary, capricious and often the terminally doddering we'd see far, far fewer people "speed".
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:02 PM
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Re: Thinking about a Radar Detector...

Or you could save yourself some money on both the radar detector and fines by just not speeding and putting yours and everyone else's lives at risk. Sure, I'm against hiding in bushes, and we're all about high visibility policing here, but if you're not speeding you have nothing to worry about. Is it really worth it just to get that Big Mac in your guts a minute sooner?

Maybe I'm biased though. Oink.
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The law generally disfavors pretext stops. Traffic laws should not be a means to revenue or gateway to other stops. Harsh as I wish to be on drunks, I cannot sanction stopping people on mere suspicion. Your department may make little, but states and towns make an enormous sum.

Policing is, or should be, too dignified to allow trained officers to hide in the bushes. If safety is truly the goal, the higher levels of driver training and more active patrolling to stop the tailgaters & weavers would be the norm. Hiding in the bushes is great for money, yet does little else. No disrespect intended as I firmly believe law enforcement should be above such nonsense. Were speed limits set by engineers and a reasonable man standard as opposed to arbitrary, capricious and often the terminally doddering we'd see far, far fewer people "speed".
Arrests would never be made without pretext stops. 90% of my stops are for other reasons than the actual vehicle code violation. I rarely write more than a ticket a week but make a hell of a lot dope arrests. A cop isn't doing a good job if he/she isn't making pretext's. I have never been givin any grief on pretext stops even from defense attorneys. It's a part of the job.

Sorry for the thread hijack. Just wanted to make sure the BS was addressed.
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Or you could save yourself some money on both the radar detector and fines by just not speeding and putting yours and everyone else's lives at risk. Sure, I'm against hiding in bushes, and we're all about high visibility policing here, but if you're not speeding you have nothing to worry about. Is it really worth it just to get that Big Mac in your guts a minute sooner?

Maybe I'm biased though. Oink.
I can't always locate the speed limit signs because they are so spaced out nor can I be a completely safe driver if I'm watching my speedometer (which is hard to read with glare at certain times of the day: rush hour) rather than watching the road. I might speed up to get out of someone's blind spot or slow down for the same reason, depends on the traffic. Once all is safe I can then locate my speed and the speed limit signs and slow down if I'm over the limit, but having a momentary moment for a few seconds of being over the limit and being caught in a speed trap is complete b.s. Pull over the people that can't take a curve and stay in their lane, especially when I or other drivers are next to them, or the person tailgaiting me and looking around instead of straight ahead. It's ridiculous out there. Plus the speed limits are way too low in some areas.
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