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Old 07-25-2014, 01:54 PM
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yikes...that is good to know..same thing with having it in the ON position but not started?
Yes run without starting keeps systems active.

It is easier with the radio updates to have the engine running though just not in an enclosed space. ACC is known to abruptly shut off at a time interval or when the battery reaches a low voltage point.
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Yes run without starting keeps systems active.

It is easier with the radio updates to have the engine running though just not in an enclosed space. ACC is known to abruptly shut off at a time interval or when the battery reaches a low voltage point.
Best to keep the engine running. Keeps voltage steady. Powernet vehicles with push button start will shut ignition off after approximately 15 minutes if engine is not running. If you activate hazard lamps, it will prevent ignition from shutting down but may drop system voltage below acceptable level.
Btw, powernet BCM is updated with ignition off.
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Best to keep the engine running. Keeps voltage steady. Powernet vehicles with push button start will shut ignition off after approximately 15 minutes if engine is not running. If you activate hazard lamps, it will prevent ignition from shutting down but may drop system voltage below acceptable level.
Btw, powernet BCM is updated with ignition off.
A vehicle in run mode with the pushbutton do not shut off.

Chrysler programming procedures run numerous updates while the vehicle is in run without the engine running. The only exception is BCM that I can think of. I have seen vehicles sit in this state for over an hour so I have no idea where you are getting the 15 minute rule from unless you are talking ACC mode specifically?
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A vehicle in run mode with the pushbutton do not shut off.

Chrysler programming procedures run numerous updates while the vehicle is in run without the engine running. The only exception is BCM that I can think of. I have seen vehicles sit in this state for over an hour so I have no idea where you are getting the 15 minute rule from unless you are talking ACC mode specifically?
From N58 recall procedure and personal experience.
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From N58 recall procedure and personal experience.
N58 Recall: http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/rc_N5813r3.pdf

" 3. Place the ignition in the “RUN” position. "

That is from the recall....

Time outs do not happen in run, only in ACC.
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In the recall procedure, like in some other updates, it says to attach a battery charger. It goes on to warn about letting the charger time out. I didn't see anything about the Jeep timing out.

If the Jeep system shut down in 15 minutes when in the run position, I never would have completed my uConnect update.


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Re: Uconnect 14.25.05 is Available Online

I can also confirm that the camera issues are fixed for me with the update!
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N58 Recall: http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/rc_N5813r3.pdf

" 3. Place the ignition in the “RUN” position. "

That is from the recall....

Time outs do not happen in run, only in ACC.
That is the revised version. The original document specifically states to activate the hazard lamps to prevent ignition timeout. The procedure and software were revised to reduce the time required to complete the recall. The original procedure took over 2 hours. The revised one now can be completed in less than 1/2 hour.
I may have been mistaken on the length of time required for the ignition to timeout but it definitely does timeout.
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That is the revised version. The original document specifically states to activate the hazard lamps to prevent ignition timeout. The procedure and software were revised to reduce the time required to complete the recall. The original procedure took over 2 hours. The revised one now can be completed in less than 1/2 hour.
I may have been mistaken on the length of time required for the ignition to timeout but it definitely does timeout.

Here is the ORIGINAL Recall Doc (below) . As always saying put in "Run" and keep a charger on the battery.

I have seen techs do this improperly without the battery charger and just turn off the air and radio etc. Never seen anyone actually run the 4 ways.

More to the point though, that time out if it did happen would be well past the hour mark. The radio updates that we are discussing here have never had anything about hazard lights.

ORIGINAL Recall Doc: http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/rc_N5813.pdf
(for reference to the conversation only, it has been superceded).
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Thanks for posting the original document. It's been removed from dealerconnect.
I have seen them timeout over 15 minute break but the ignition may have been on for sometime beforehand. Next time i have a WK in the shop, I'll put a stop watch on it.
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Thanks for posting the original document. It's been removed from dealerconnect.
I have seen them timeout over 15 minute break but the ignition may have been on for sometime beforehand. Next time i have a WK in the shop, I'll put a stop watch on it.
It would be interesting to know.
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I updated mine in run with no problems.
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