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Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Just traded my 2011 JGC limited 4x2 for a 2015 limited 4x4. Super happy with the purchase! Downside is that the 2011 had the 9 spk Alpine system w/ sub and the 2015 came with 6 spk. I did not realize I would miss the 9 spk until I started listening to the stock 6 spk, ugh...

I've read a ton in the forum about upgrading the stock system (rageoffury, etc) and think I have a good feel for what to do. To put in context, I'm mostly a talk radio listener but occasionally like to listen to music. No serious thumping, just good decent sound. I'm planning to upgrade the stock system to:

Front: Kicker 40CSS694 / Rear: Kicker 40CS654 (about $250 ttl)
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Front: Focal ISS 690 / Rear: Focal ISC165 (about $450 ttl)

I'm also considering adding an amp. I realize this will improve the sound drastically but I do want to see what replacing the stock speakers will do first. If I add an amp it will probably be the Alpine MRV-F300. I think this will fit nicely under the drivers seat.

Any thoughts, suggestions, etc?

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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Greetings and welcome,

Both choices of speakers that you are interested have the metal dome tweeters. Since you mostly interested in talk radio, you are better off looking for something with more natural tweeter that does not use metal. They call this soft dome because they use different types of natural products. The most common is silk.

All of Focal product lines use a metal dome tweeter. Some here do not like it because it delivers are harsh and bright sound. The Alpine system that you had previous used all soft dome material in the tweeters and full range speakers.

Here are some examples of component speakers from Crutchfield:

Find what fits your car - Crutchfield

Remember you are not limited to 6x9, many here have used 6.5 speaker as well.

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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Thanks for the advice. I've gone back and read your posts on various a/v threads, very helpful. I'm contemplating what to do next. I'm looking for a sound close to what I had in the 9 speaker setup (even if it's considered average). I'm not sure which direction to take but have thought of a few options.

A) Trade my vehicle back in and get the Overland for $5,000 more. I don't need the bells and whistles on the Overland although they're nice so this seems excessive to get the 9 speaker system. Probably not a good option.

B) Buy the components for the 9 speaker system from Chrysler (amp, sub, rear right liner, both d-pillars, rear pillar speakers, front dash plastic, front dash speaker, etc.). Just based on looking up the price of the amp and sub this would cost $500-700 I think. I'm not sure if this would be plug and play of if I would need to have the can reprogrammed? Also, I'm not sure if this would be the best bang for my buck?

C)
Phase 1: Replace the front (component) and rear (coaxial) speakers. No amp, just see how much this makes a difference. I'm guessing this WILL sound better than what I'm hearing now with the stock 6. Will it sound close to the 9 speaker?

Phase 2: Add an amp under the front driver's seat, take the high-level inputs from the stock speaker leads and pump back to the replacement speakers. I'm guessing this will drastically improve the sound. Will it be as close to the thumping of the stock 9 speaker system without having to add a sub? I'm looking at the Alpine MRV-F300 class d amp. Will it accept the speaker level feeds without any problem, noise?

Phase 3: Add a 2nd amp and JL sub in the back right corner. I imagine this will sound fantastic but will also cost me another $800. Will I get enough basic thumping out of the phase 2? Again, I'm talk radio with some music listening.
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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Greetings,

IMHO, I would not trade it in due to the fact you going to loose money on the transaction unless the dealer makes it worth your while. The money that is needed for your transaction for the swap, a portion could be used in the sound system.

You probably read that I ask a simple question to get started. Do you really need a surround sound system? In reality the OE system is nothing to write home about. Based upon your original post, since music is secondary on wish list, this is something to think about. Their are aftermarket alternates that you have at hand that could be incorporated into your stock locations.

One idea at your disposal for surround system is to go for 5.1 using the Alpine processor PXA-H800. And that you can talk about later.


In addition which screen do you have the 8.4 or the 5 inch?

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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

I have the 8.4A unit.

Taking your advise on the silk dome tweeters, I'm looking at Alpine SPS-610c or SPR-60c for the fronts and SPS-610 for the rear. Crutchfield doesn't show these as fitting but rageoffury commented that they do fit. One question, would it benefit me to get the components for the rear and put the rear tweeter up a little higher on the rear door (cutting a hole)? Would I notice the sound difference from the front?

Should I put these in first and see how much things improve before spending the money on amp/sub?
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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

I have the Kickers which were recommended to my by Crutchfield and the difference is night and day. They have a nice bass kick to it since I wasn't going to add a sub. They also hold up to 200watts if I decide to add an amplifier later on.
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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Thanks for the advice. Did you put 6x9's in the front and 6.5 in the rear? Components or coaxials in front?

One thought I had was to put Alpine SPS-610c in the front and Kicker CS654 in the rear. The Alpine has the silk dome for good vocals but stops at 70hz. The Kickers in the rear may provide a little better low end since they go to 40hz. I realize this is all with no amp and no sub so the car won't shake but still looking for a good combination to replace the awful stock speakers!
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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Did they downgrade the Alpine system in the Limited for 2015? In 2014 the Limited had the 9-speaker system.
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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

Yes and not very happy about it....
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Huh. If you order Lux II or Adv Tech II, does that restore the 9-speaker system?
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The lux II pkg has it. It can also be ordered a la carte for $495, which I've now discovered.


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Re: Upgrade stock 6 speaker system on 2015 JGC Limited

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I have the 8.4A unit.

Taking your advise on the silk dome tweeters, I'm looking at Alpine SPS-610c or SPR-60c for the fronts and SPS-610 for the rear. Crutchfield doesn't show these as fitting but rageoffury commented that they do fit. One question, would it benefit me to get the components for the rear and put the rear tweeter up a little higher on the rear door (cutting a hole)? Would I notice the sound difference from the front?

Should I put these in first and see how much things improve before spending the money on amp/sub?
Greetings,

The selection of the speakers that you are interested in are far better than the stock OE. You will for sure appreciate them.

Regarding placement of the rear, this is really a matter of personal taste. I personally do not like to the have rear tweeter close to my ear for I feel it throws off the front stage. If you have a DSP that you can control the time delay and lower the top end of the frequency, then it becomes better. Although I am still not a fan of it.

Yes, let the speakers break in and listen to them. Afterwards, if you feel you need more power and introduce the low range to the JGC, then go ahead. If you desire the surround sound, as I said in the previous post, their a ways to so, including ordering the rear D-pillars from Jeep without the speakers. The Alpine you have selected are easier enough to match a center and rear pillars down the road.

My feeling to spend $5,000.00 plus any trade in costs and additional taxes is not worth it.

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