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Old 01-14-2014, 11:48 PM
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Re: Upgrading just the base speakers?

As you can see from attached the Focals and the HATs have essentially the same (diameter) dimensions. My concern with mounting directly would be the diameter of the OEM hole and the thickness of the plastic it screws into. The hole ideally would be between 141 and 149mm (mounting directly) to satisfy me it is a good seal and anything less than 3mm (plastic) I wouldn't screw straight into.
Maybe I secure them more than required but I have already seen the movement in my front 6x9's to know it needs securing well.
I'll measure it up and see what we have!
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Re: Upgrading just the base speakers?

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Old 01-15-2014, 08:30 AM
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Re: Upgrading just the base speakers?

OK, after installing my front 6x9's and giving them a tickle I think I need to Dynamat/Fatmat the outer door skins on the front. Even at moderate volume (15) I can feel significant vibrations through the outer door skin (standing outside the car). The back door currently with stock speakers creates nothing in comparision.
So with that, has anyone done the front outer door skins/removed the inner door harness, etc?
Any pics? Is there decent access? Any feedback that may assist?
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Re: Upgrading just the base speakers?

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Sounds good no pun intended,I guess you'll have to wait around 25-35 hours of usage for the new speakers to break in. What kind of deal did you get on the tweeters and the front pair of speakers?

I got these


Focal Integration IS 165 6-3/4" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

Crutchfield does not have it but woofers etc in california has em. will get mine on saturday, as soon as i receive em i am putting em in, I am ready, i got adapters and wire adapters ready. and i am gonna use the tweeters which are coming with speakers. and i think they are better than the ones i got right now, but i am not sure.
what you guys suggest which tweeters are better the one coming with the components OR the ones i already have.. which are http://www.ebay.com/itm/130895812131...84.m1439.l2649

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Listen to the advice people have already given you. Use the component set.
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Listen to the advice people have already given you. Use the component set.


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Will Do.
I just read that again and realized I sounded like a jerk, sorry.

You really, really need to know what you're doing to mix and match speakers. Different crossover points, different materials, etc.

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Re: Upgrading just the base speakers?

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I just read that again and realized I sounded like a jerk, sorry.

You really, really need to know what you're doing to mix and match speakers. Different crossover points, different materials, etc.

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I got these

Focal Integration IS 165 6-3/4" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

Crutchfield does not have it but woofers etc in california has em. will get mine on saturday, as soon as i receive em i am putting em in, I am ready, i got adapters and wire adapters ready. and i am gonna use the tweeters which are coming with speakers. and i think they are better than the ones i got right now, but i am not sure.
what you guys suggest which tweeters are better the one coming with the components OR the ones i already have.. which are http://www.ebay.com/itm/130895812131...84.m1439.l2649

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As they are both from a similar Focal range (Access and Integration) there probably won't be much between them. I would test both WITH the new midrange and go from there... If you had to use the crossover (which you don't) I would then just say stick with the set.
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As they are both from a similar Focal range (Access and Integration) there probably won't be much between them. I would test both WITH the new midrange and go from there... If you had to use the crossover (which you don't) I would then just say stick with the set.
I called the woofers etc and asked them the same question, they said Intergration ones are newer version and Acess version are little old version BUT he said Acess version suppose to be lil better than integration ones.

You are right , for curiosity , I will have to test both with new mid ranges. regardless of whats new and whats old. And i am also getting the 3.5" dash speaker , so will be changing that as well. This whole speaker changing thing is weird , you always end up wanting more and more. I am already thinking focal 2 way for my rear doors, even tho i have yet to change the front doors.
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