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Old 12-03-2013, 08:40 PM
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Like I said, the plan initially was to add a LOC and amp(s) as well as the speaker upgrade but it was always going to be a step at a time as you never know what difference a single change will make. Having replaced the fronts then the rears with Focals I'm extremely happy with the sound quality. And if I decide to add amps/sound processing at a later stage I know I've got quality end points. Yes I'm not taking advantage of the new components now but I have the capability to later if I so choose.
Ah, didn't read the whole thread again, upgrading in stages makes sense.

Man... Those things are going to scream when you get them powered!

I've pretty much decided on hybrid audio technology imagine 6x9's. 94db sensitivity. Let me know if you amp them and how you end up summing signals.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:42 PM
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exlr8 - having driven around with just the fronts upgraded for 3 weeks, then doing the rears yesterday; yes they made a big difference. Didn't change the centre. I don't think it has any impact.
I upgraded the center to a higher sensitivity Polk audio. I did it to increase blue tooth quality during a phone call. Well Worth the $30.
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I've pretty much decided on hybrid audio technology imagine 6x9's. 94db sensitivity.
Greetings,

I think you are going to really like the HAT's and be very pleased with them. I would not be surprised later down the road you change out the center speaker again and install one of the wideband 3 inch speakers from HAT.

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exlr8 - having driven around with just the fronts upgraded for 3 weeks, then doing the rears yesterday; yes they made a big difference. Didn't change the centre. I don't think it has any impact.
Thanks for that, something for me to consider too. Also with the KR2, in addition to the high sensitivity you have 2ohm impedance which suits the stock amp. That is why I chose the Polk MM6501's, high sensitivity and 2.7ohm. I have Focal K2P's in my Focus ST/XR5 (running off a PDX 4.150) and know they sound good but couldn't justify the $1K running on the OEM amp. I plan to stop with speakers though... Maybe. :-)

Do you have a photo of the installed tweeters AllyMac?
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Didn't change the centre. I don't think it has any impact.
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In the factory system, IMO, the center speaker makes a small impact. It is not the impact it should be. For the JGC the SRT and the 2014 Summit models have JBL's Logic 7 incorporated into the HK factory system to achieve the correct effect of the center and make that impact. Most folks change the center to improve it as best as possible, including to improve the vocals for the phone calls. Changing the front stage with new speakers and the right amps to match the speakers improves the center greatly.

To achieve the full impact does require the right DSP processor. You cannot think of the center channel speaker the same way as watching a movie. The concept in music for the center channel is provide a wall of sound with the separation of the left and right channels.

For the rest of the us with that do not have the HK and are stuck with the Alpine factory system, the cost to achieve the proper effect is costly. Currently, as far as I know, their is only 3 DSP units make use of a proper center channel. Alpine has their aftermarket surround sound unit with various modes (music matrix) in which they allow you to play and adjust the signals. Arc Audio's PS-8 unit does not have surround sound modes, however, within their advance level of the DSP, they allow to create a center and adjust the percentage of the mix between the L & R channels. And of course, JBL'S MS-8 with their Logic 7 that automatically calculates the surround mixture and the proven center channel that you find in the European cars beside in home theater.

The only drawback of the MS-8 it gives you limited ability to tune the system. In order to compensate for that, it to run a another DSP unit that allows you to greater access to individual channels. This is why for my rebuild I went with the RF 3.sixty3 in addition to the MS-8.

Their are other DSP out their with some sort of surround sound modes. However, IMO, it is pretty much the same processing as in the factory system. It is a waste of money to invest in something you already have.

Bottom line, i think changing the center speaker is a matter of personal opinion because goes back to the way individuals hear music and sound.

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Do you have a photo of the installed tweeters AllyMac?
Yep - over here: 2014 speaker upgrade
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Does focal have that tweeter in black so that it looks more stock?
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:12 AM
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Does focal have that tweeter in black so that it looks more stock?
Not in the K series. If you want the cheaper models I think they're all black or you can pay $2k for Utopia's in grey. In any case I think the Focal signature yellow makes a statement that you have some relatively serious gear.
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The yellow giving the signal that i have some serious gear is what I'm worried about I wanna know i have serious gear I don't want anyone peeking in my car at the mall to know bit of course I want the best response possible from the gear.
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The yellow giving the signal that i have some serious gear is what I'm worried about I wanna know i have serious gear I don't want anyone peeking in my car at the mall to know bit of course I want the best response possible from the gear.
Go with Focal IS 165. Its their Intergration series. Middle of the road in their line up. They are black with a grey grill that fit in the stock location. I love mine.
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Your not giving up anything. Lol. It replaces the factory panel. When installed it looks factory placed. It so worth the money. I have it and love it. I can send pics if wanted. You got to pay to play. Nothing is cheap. If you want cheap, it will look cheap.
I'd be giving up the little pocket that is there, that I use often. I don't mind paying, but I'm not going to pay that much when I could get what I want for less than half of that price. Again, if the stock system scores a B- for me, I'm not looking for anything drastic to get it up to an A.
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