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Using Garmin Exclusively

Just completed an 1800 mile trip from Maine to Florida. I used my Garmin 3590 exclusively for the entire trip and continue to use it in Florida. My 8.4 AN is not a practical navigation tool.

1 - Need the passenger to be able to find rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, and hotels WHILE MOVING.

2 - Need accurate, up-to-date map and Points of Interest (not obsolete 2012 data).

3 - Need routing that does not avoid "unverified areas" and send me miles in the wrong direction rather than use a nice 100 yard paved road (visible on the Jeep map) because it's "unverified".

4 - Rather not have to confirm "YES" after selection of GO, or STOP, or hear every "recalculating" message as I take a different route for a short ways.

I took delivery of my 2014 Overland exactly 2 years ago today. I have 40,000 miles on it. We have enjoyed this car tremendously and love everything about it EXCEPT the NAV System. Besides all the practical usage issues I listed above, I am absolutely frustatrated with Jeep's unwillingness to take responsibility for delivering an updated map. They point me to "HERE". Neither company will even give a schedule for a map update. Well, I bought this system from Jeep. They should use their leverage to get and deliver map/POI updates at least annually.

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Old 03-07-2015, 08:33 PM
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Re: Using Garmin Exclusively

Greetings,

In 2 years to rack up the mileage, I am impressed, Now, after 4 years , I am about to hit 58k from the time I picked it up the first week of FEB 2011. This indeed has been the most versatile vehicle that I have had to date and continuing to love it.

It is quite sad that FCA concept of a navigation system is behind the times. Those key points you stated is what a navigation system is all about for traveling. The current state of this system based upon many reports is good enough for local driving not to mentioned that the processing power is below the current standard.

The other choice you have even through you are using the Garmin, it look into a lock pick or a different interface system that allows you to mirror your smartphone. You still have to control from the smartphone, but at least you have the ability to use on the big screen. With app, the biggest and best advantage is that you get the latest software, ui and map updates.

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We have enjoyed this car tremendously and love everything about it EXCEPT the NAV System. Besides all the practical usage issues I listed above, I am absolutely frustatrated with Jeep's unwillingness to take responsibility for delivering an updated map. They point me to "HERE". Neither company will even give a schedule for a map update. Well, I bought this system from Jeep. They should use their leverage to get and deliver map/POI updates at least annually.

Tom

Thanks Tom. Or should I say Tom Tom!!! Praising Garmin is going to get you fired.

J/K! 😀

I myself am also one of the many that is frustrated with having old maps. Let alone, my wife can't even browse for local POI's while I am at the helm. I hope FCA does something about this. However, if they do it might be a totally different system which our current head units won't be compatible with. (Awaiting MY 18')



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Re: Using Garmin Exclusively

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Just completed an 1800 mile trip from Maine to Florida. I used my Garmin 3590 exclusively for the entire trip and continue to use it in Florida. My 8.4 AN is not a practical navigation tool.

1 - Need the passenger to be able to find rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, and hotels WHILE MOVING.

2 - Need accurate, up-to-date map and Points of Interest (not obsolete 2012 data).

3 - Need routing that does not avoid "unverified areas" and send me miles in the wrong direction rather than use a nice 100 yard paved road (visible on the Jeep map) because it's "unverified".

4 - Rather not have to confirm "YES" after selection of GO, or STOP, or hear every "recalculating" message as I take a different route for a short ways.

I took delivery of my 2014 Overland exactly 2 years ago today. I have 40,000 miles on it. We have enjoyed this car tremendously and love everything about it EXCEPT the NAV System. Besides all the practical usage issues I listed above, I am absolutely frustatrated with Jeep's unwillingness to take responsibility for delivering an updated map. They point me to "HERE". Neither company will even give a schedule for a map update. Well, I bought this system from Jeep. They should use their leverage to get and deliver map/POI updates at least annually.

Tom
I agree with you completely and there are plenty of people here that feel the same. Have had my GC for 2 years also and on those 2012 maps as well. NAVTEQ was first saying last summer than October, than fall, than January and now it is just "soon". I really don't think they have a clue when it will be. I also agree this is back in Jeeps court as their problem. Jeeps vendor they have a contract with isn't performing Jeep should be pressuring them to perform not washing their hands of it and telling their customers to continue calling NAVTEQ as if we should be fighting their battle for them. I am used to in dash systems being a year or year and half back but these ones are getting ridiculous at what point do you think jeep might think hmm we need to look into this 4 years, 5 years, 7 years? does get old seeing your jeep on a map in the middle of a field
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Re: Using Garmin Exclusively

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Just completed an 1800 mile trip from Maine to Florida. I used my Garmin 3590 exclusively for the entire trip and continue to use it in Florida. My 8.4 AN is not a practical navigation tool.

1 - Need the passenger to be able to find rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, and hotels WHILE MOVING.

2 - Need accurate, up-to-date map and Points of Interest (not obsolete 2012 data).

3 - Need routing that does not avoid "unverified areas" and send me miles in the wrong direction rather than use a nice 100 yard paved road (visible on the Jeep map) because it's "unverified".

4 - Rather not have to confirm "YES" after selection of GO, or STOP, or hear every "recalculating" message as I take a different route for a short ways.

I took delivery of my 2014 Overland exactly 2 years ago today. I have 40,000 miles on it. We have enjoyed this car tremendously and love everything about it EXCEPT the NAV System. Besides all the practical usage issues I listed above, I am absolutely frustatrated with Jeep's unwillingness to take responsibility for delivering an updated map. They point me to "HERE". Neither company will even give a schedule for a map update. Well, I bought this system from Jeep. They should use their leverage to get and deliver map/POI updates at least annually.

Tom
Have to agree with you, I use my ancient NUVI 750 that is still far ahead of the NAV unit in the GC even though it is at least 7 years old. One exception; I have always been able to do what you mention in point #1; either the passenger or myself can use the GC's NAV while moving.
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Re: Using Garmin Exclusively

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Just completed an 1800 mile trip from Maine to Florida. I used my Garmin 3590 exclusively for the entire trip and continue to use it in Florida. My 8.4 AN is not a practical navigation tool.

1 - Need the passenger to be able to find rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, and hotels WHILE MOVING.

2 - Need accurate, up-to-date map and Points of Interest (not obsolete 2012 data).

3 - Need routing that does not avoid "unverified areas" and send me miles in the wrong direction rather than use a nice 100 yard paved road (visible on the Jeep map) because it's "unverified".
Item # 1 - there are at least 2 aftermarket solutions to deal with the inability to input addresses while in motion. Automotive manufacturers fear liability.

Items # 2 - Yes the maps are old by now but the need for new maps varies by user and region.

Item # 3 - It is in your settings. My Navi routinely routes me through "unverified areas" especially in rural Illinois and private drives / fenced communities. It doesn't route me avoiding that part of map, just pops up a message. The routing options are found in 2 sections of the settings: (1) under the regular settings and (2) after you input an address, the system configures the route and asks you to press YES. On that screen you have a second choice of routing options. Most people also fail to realize the effect of traffic input on those route guidance options.
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Just completed an 1800 mile trip from Maine to Florida. I used my Garmin 3590 exclusively for the entire trip and continue to use it in Florida. My 8.4 AN is not a practical navigation tool.

1 - Need the passenger to be able to find rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, and hotels WHILE MOVING.

2 - Need accurate, up-to-date map and Points of Interest (not obsolete 2012 data).

3 - Need routing that does not avoid "unverified areas" and send me miles in the wrong direction rather than use a nice 100 yard paved road (visible on the Jeep map) because it's "unverified".

4 - Rather not have to confirm "YES" after selection of GO, or STOP, or hear every "recalculating" message as I take a different route for a short ways.

I took delivery of my 2014 Overland exactly 2 years ago today. I have 40,000 miles on it. We have enjoyed this car tremendously and love everything about it EXCEPT the NAV System. Besides all the practical usage issues I listed above, I am absolutely frustatrated with Jeep's unwillingness to take responsibility for delivering an updated map. They point me to "HERE". Neither company will even give a schedule for a map update. Well, I bought this system from Jeep. They should use their leverage to get and deliver map/POI updates at least annually. Tom

Tom, I also have the Nuvi 3590LTM and I love mine! Brilliant image, fast & reliable, and it has never let me down! Mine is mounted right beside the Jeep's screen (using a vent mount). Comparing the two, the Jeep GPS is sooooo washed out, waaaay slower & you can hardly understand the voice commands! I like that my wife can pop the Garmin 3590 off the mount & view it, change POI etc, all while we are driving! The Jeep GPS is really antiquated compared to the Garmin. I don't even use it anymore . . .
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Greetings,

It is amazing that more and more of FCA competition is providing better audio/navigation system since the introduction of the WK2. Some give you the ability to interface your smartphone apps to take over navigation as a 2nd choice or allow the upgrades via your smartphone. For example, IGO Primo navigation built into the HU now have the Navfusion connection that has started to pop up finally allows for smartphone updates. Land Rover allows for a 2nd GPS system using the smartphone. Garmin has solution similar to IGO Primo and they were in talks with then Chrysler several years ago that seams it did not pan out.

It is sad to say that FCA has their own vision that does not match up to the current state of affairs. I glad the JGC has way more to offer than the OE navigation system.

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Maybe Jeep thinks we aren't using our Jeeps on the road enough to care.

Pretty pathetic under-use of that nice big screen.
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Android and Google Maps.

I've set a couple friends addresses (people we don't visit very often, but they come down to our area more often because of the river and boating), but otherwise about the only time I use the on-board navigation is if I'm somewhere unfamiliar and just need to get a to road/highway I know to get home.

I set a local gas station as my 'home' address rather than my actual home address so in case the Jeep is ever stolen, they can't just hit 'home' on the Nav unit to get to my house.

I wish you could just check a box to get a basic head unit and upgraded speaker system so you could rip out the OEM crap and put in a nice aftermarket head unit.

These new Android/Apple compatible head units are far more appealing (and easier to upgrade) than ANYTHING the OEMs are putting out. They always seem to be about 5 years behind the curve.
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These new Android/Apple compatible head units are far more appealing (and easier to upgrade) than ANYTHING the OEMs are putting out. They always seem to be about 5 years behind the curve.
Greetings,

I am hoping by next year more models will have an HD screen. So far, only the Parrot RBN6 due out sometime this year has a 720p screen to compete with the tablets, smartphones and other car manufacture that have done so already.

It seems that since the WK2 came out 5 years ago, they love to be way behind the times. As the post before you said by member PERPSTAR, pretty pathetic.

For us that do not have the 2014+ models, we are indeed lucky. For those who do, as of now the aftermarket solution for a new headunit does not exist because of the Uconnect built into the headunit and additional computer data passing thru this time.

Ford listen to their customer base and redesigned their system. Oh Jeep, how about us?

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Google maps mirrored on the unlocked Uconnect screen while driving is still the most convenient route till yet:


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