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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

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That is very true I haven't seen a new WK2 with the HID bulbs in the standard reflectors. It is very admirable of you to consider the others on the road when changing components. I am all for more light and better visibility too....I just hope manufactures start taking steps to make the standard reflectors able to control both types of bulbs.
It's not the reflectors that are the problem, it's the kits themselves. In many of the first kits (and some of the crap kits out there today) they just slap a bulb onto a base and take no time to make sure the filament is correctly positioned. The position of the light's point of origin on HID lamps is different than halogen bulbs. It's that different point of origin that makes improperly designed HID kits throw the light all over the place instead of where the reflector is engineered to focus it. If the HID conversion is properly designed, as this one seems to be, the point of origin is in the exact same place as the halogen bulb it replaces and what you get is a higher intensity of light focused in the exact same pattern as the factory halogen. Done correctly it's a very good upgrade. Done poorly, like most of the ricers who buy their parts at the flea market, it's a hazard to everyone.

As to the relay vs. CAN Bus rated ballast, it's not really the CAN bus as much as the fulfillment sensing logic in the newer vehicles that causes the problem. Direct connecting the leads in a standard ballast or running them through a relay has the same effect. It eliminates the resistance of the incandescent bulb and tells the system you have a burned out bulb. It compensates by cycling the signal to the circuit which causes the flicker. The only way you could isolate the ballast with a relay would be if you had a slow acting or decay circuit type relay that would remain closed between the pulse cycles. While this would make it look like everything was all right your vehicle still thinks it has burnt out bulbs and that's not a good thing. The CAN Bus specific ballast has the resisters in place to make it electrically look like a halogen bulb. It is the correct solution, the relay is a band aid.
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

Thanks for the proper explaination about the canbus topic mjw - I knew it worked but had no idea why or how. +r
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

Sorry in advance for bringing up an old thread. Has anyone else had success with HID kits on their WK2 with the halogen housings? By success I mean got them to work without blinding everyone else. If so if you could provide a link with the part it would be greatly appreciated.
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one of our vendors....Xenondepot...sells and has a how to complete with pics for the 2011 Grand Cherokee. theer are also several other how to's in this forum.
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one of our vendors....Xenondepot...sells and has a how to complete with pics for the 2011 Grand Cherokee. theer are also several other how to's in this forum.
Any tips on what to search for in the forum to find this "how to" guide? I havent been able to locate it. thanks in advance
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

I have seen the how to guides, they are a huge help and if I do get the HIDs I will certainly use them. However, I was wondering if anybody who had done this could give input as to the light that is thrown above the vertical cutoff. Is it much higher then the factory halogens, would I run the risk of being a danger on the road?
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

I own a WK2 and i have 6000k HIDs installed. I haven't noticed any glare with mine like i did on my 08 WK. The difference i have found is the housing and reflectors on the WK2 are about half the size of the WK. As for the Glare above the cut off, i dont see it with mine. 6000k and under are what most car companies are using, anything over 6000K i was told by my local Auto Customizing shop. My auto customizing place is very reputable as they do work for D.U.B magazine, music videos for singers, etc. Anything 8500K and up, I was told would put off glare because the factory housing isn't made for something that bright lighting up inside them.

When i am driving at night and am passing highway signs, there is no to VERY little reflection on them from my headlights as i go underneath. From far away, i light them up for a brief second but it doesn't last long because the light is not glaring or shining above the cut off.
If angled properly you wont be a hazzard to the other cars. My WK had glare and to fix that we tinted the headlights that stopped the glare. My WK2 does not. The picture attached is taken from the ground angled up to the jeep not straight on, as you can see, the lights are angled towards me just like the factory fog lights. As you see, the HIDs don't put off anymore glare at that angle than the FACTORY Halogen fog light bulb.





In the following picture, you will notice that there is more of a glare around the lights being captured by the camera from my factory halogen bulbs than my 6000K HID kit... this picture was taken from just a little above straight on.

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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

Thanks for the info. I believe I read your tutorial as well. Is it necessary to take the bumper off to do the retrofit? I can just see myself damaging it.
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

No, you do not need to take off the bumper but it's a very tight fit to get your hand in there to remove the bulbs. Most of the questions you have are all answered in the first post of this thread. Good Luck!
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

Ok, so Can-bus is needed, Do we need a relay also?

I have installed these kits on many of my vehicles, I have used many kits from many manufacturers. The cheaper kits throw light everywhere, if you spend a little more they look great and you dont have to adjust your headlights down.
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Re: Aftermarket HID info and pictures

SixZeroFour,

Could you please post some pics up of how you mounted the ballasts? I'm taking an extra HID kit I had from my SRX and installing it on the wife's WK2 with some new 4300k H11 bulbs.

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