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Old 12-31-2015, 11:27 AM
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I'm done with Lube Joints

I’m done with the drive in lube places. Two weeks ago I dropped in to have my front and rear diff fluid changed and get my oil done as well. Paid the man and headed out the door. Happy that I saved a few bucks not taking it to the dealer.

Then yesterday I popped the hood to give engine and little love and what do I find…a 10 inch long angled needle nose pliers sitting on the left side of the engine bay. It was nestled in under a set of wires (thank god for that). When I think of what could have happened had they fallen down into the fan and rad area. Man that would have been disastrous. And we just returned home from a trip that has a section of highway that has no cell service.
I called the lube place and the manager is like “oh that’s where those ended up, we were wondering where they went” I said to him I don’t think your fully comprehending the gravity of the situation.

He apologized but was treating it like it was no big deal. He even asked me if I could return the pliers.

This isn’t the first time that I’ve had issues with these places.

Never going back.

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Old 12-31-2015, 12:39 PM
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I hope you didnt retutn the pliers, it will make them think about it a little more instead of just dismissing it.

One of the issues with those quicky places for anything other than an oil change is you never know what kind of all in one crap they are putting in your car. There is such a variety of of fluids and specs these days there is no way these quicky places stock that many specific fluids so they just pump in some fit all in one for diff, trans, ps, antifreeze or what ever you are having done that may work or may not. I have countless stories of friends that this has happened to. One girl i know a quicky place put in some fit all trans fluid in her cvt trans and the trans was destroyed within 200 miles to the tune of $8,000 that the quicky place ate cost after the dealer tracked down what they put in there. Or antifreeze years ago it was just the green stuff and everyone used it now there are so many types and colors and we have endless threads just trying to figure out what jeep is doing with OAT, HOAT non OAT and colors that go with them and how you cant mix them. Let alone every other manufacurer out there. How many top offs of the wrong shit to cause particulate and other issues down the road have those quicky places caused, many im sure. Those places are a nightmare for a modern vehicle. The all in one crap they pump in might be ok or might not, the problem is the might not may not show up immediately and then you get to handle the fix it cost on your own down the line. Role the dice at those places.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

I wanted to get my fluids replaced recently, called a couple of chains to inquire. Both said they used "universal" fluids with special additives. Neither would do the labor only with me bringing in the fluids specific to my vehicle. Needless to say, I paid the extra to go to the dealer for the flushes.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

The dealer quick lube lane is about the same price as those other joints. And I've been collecting mechanics tools in my cars for many years... box wrenches, razor knives, work gloves, coffee creamers.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

No way was I bringing back the pliers. I was amazed that he even asked.

I'm seriously thinking about bringing it to a local shop in my neighbourhood to have it replaced. I'm at the point now where I don't know what the lube place did or didn't do to my diff fluid.

A friend of mine swears by them. he's had brake jobs and minor stuff done. They want you back as a steady customer so maybe that's an option.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

Kinds reminds me of an old cutlass I had in the 80s. Worked on the engine. Next day I drove out of state for the weekend, came home and as soon as I shut the door in the driveway, a socket wrench I was using fell out from somewhere under the hood & landed in the driveway
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

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No way was I bringing back the pliers. I was amazed that he even asked.

I'm seriously thinking about bringing it to a local shop in my neighbourhood to have it replaced. I'm at the point now where I don't know what the lube place did or didn't do to my diff fluid.

A friend of mine swears by them. he's had brake jobs and minor stuff done. They want you back as a steady customer so maybe that's an option.
See if you can figure out what they dumped in your diffs, if it meets the GL-5 spec and the weight was correct you are probably ok. also if you have rear ELSD it must have a friction modifier added to it. it doesn't have to be mopar fluid but should meet the spec and weight.

From the US manual (not sure if Canada would be different)

Axle Differential (Front) We recommend you use MOPAR® GL-5 Synthetic Axle Lubricant SAE 75W-85.

Axle Differential (Rear) – With Electronic Limited-Slip Differential (ELSD)
We recommend you use MOPAR® GL-5 Synthetic Axle Lubricant SAE 75W-85 with friction modifier additive.

Axle Differential (Rear) – Without Electronic Limited-Slip Differential (ELSD) We recommend you use MOPAR® GL-5 Synthetic Axle Lubricant SAE 75W-85.


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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

Yikes! I fully support bringing your car to a local garage assuming that you have a good relationship with them and they have qualified people. Mine even used to let me supply my own oil and filter. Sadly, I've seen nothing but problems with mega-lube joints not knowing what they are doing and treating all cars the same. At the end of the day, my local Jeep dealer has very competitive pricing for routine maintenance to include oil changes, and I trust that they are qualified. They use conventional oil, but my car is a lease and I change oil religiously so no worries.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

I’m going to have to check my receipt when I get home to see what they put into the diff. I called a different lube place (same chain) and the guy said it depends on my VIN number. Apparently they switched fluid type’s mid-year. According to him anyway.
If I called 10 places they’d all tell me something different.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

There is a great article on Jalopnik regarding someone taking their Audi S4 to Valvoline Quick Lube and causing a couple thousand dollars of damage.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

The more people I mention this to the more horror stories I hear.

A buddy of mine said " you mean to tell me that you trust one if the most important part of your vehicle maintenance to a guy that is barely trained and probably doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
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Re: I'm done with Lube Joints

It amazes me these places can stay in business. About 25-30 years ago I went to a Jiffy Lube and they neglected to replace the drain plug. Noticed when I got home. It's been the dealer for me ever since. I know there are many good independent garages, and also many crappy dealer service departments, but I'd rather take my chances with the dealer. After a few visits it's easy to tell if they know what they're doing, and if they give a crap. I've been lucky to have good dealers to work with in my town.
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