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Old 05-18-2012, 11:28 PM
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

I figured if I just asked where the fuel rail connector was located it would generate a lot of questions. So I thought I would be up front and say why I wanted to know where it was located.

I already unhooked what I was told was the "return line". The line is a bit larger in diameter than the connectors that come with the Fitch fuel catalyst. Unless, the engineer at Fitch was wrong? He told me a few years back manufacturers changed the input and return line diameters and I needed to find the connector that fits on the connectors that come with the catalyst.

I know it sounds like snake oil. I thought the same thing until three of the magazines I subscribe to tested the product and it improved mileage and power output. There are many fleets of vehicles, including the DOD that use this product. Think what you would like.

I just want to know where the dang fuel connector is located.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:25 AM
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

The snake-oil widget that impressed me the most was the hydrogen generator that worked off your electrical system while you were decelerating. The main issue with hydrogen is fuel storage and and they solved that problem by burning up the hydrogen in the engine as it was being made...
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

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I know it sounds like snake oil. I thought the same thing until three of the magazines I subscribe to tested the product and it improved mileage and power output. There are many fleets of vehicles, including the DOD that use this product. Think what you would like.

I just want to know where the dang fuel connector is located.
Do you still don't know where the fuel line is or was that a typo?

How about some specific references, like this NRMA test:

"There is plenty of evidence for complete lack of effectiveness. For example, when the Fitch Fuel Catalyst was tested in February 2008 by the Australian motoring organisation, the NRMA, essentially no benefit in either emissions or fuel consumption was found on the two petrol (gasoline) vehicles tested. Supporters of this technology claim that the tests were flawed in some way - either due to incorrect installation, or insufficient "conditioning period" between installing the device and performing the test. The negative results still represent a significant challenge to the makers of such devices."

Or NHRS performance:

"Not only were the “best” pulls in each configuration (shown) virtually identical, but more importantly, the range of results between the treated and untreated gasoline was well within the repeatability of the measurement.

Bottom line, while I can’t comment on all of the claims made by the folks at Fitch, I can say that with this bike on this day I couldn’t detect one iota of difference in the power with or without the Fitch device."

The only positive reviews are from those that happen to also sell the product and you seem to be able to throw away your money just about anywhere.


Catalysts are used in the petroleum cracking process, however, and some catalyst additives do provide some benefit, if the vehicle is designed for it:

"NB AdBlue is a quite genuine additive that will be used to enhance catalytic reduction of NOx emissions on many future diesel trucks. Negative comments regarding fuel additives and "catalysts" do not in any way refer to AdBlue, which is only of use on engines specifically designed for it."
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

Yes, I am still trying to find out where the connection point is for the fuel line used to pressurize the fuel rails. There must be a fuel system schematic available somewhere?
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

As mentioned a few posts back, the connection point on the V6 is on the rail near the firewall driver's side.There may also be one at the tank if you want to go there. Perhaps the catalyst vendor has an idea where the best spot would be. The shop manual for the WK2 is not available yet, and the parts book just shows a one piece fuel line "harness" that runs from the tank to the fuel rail. Not much detail there. How many fuel lines are connected to the rail? The parts list shows one.

Sorry not much help, but I have not seen any posts on fuel line modifications here.
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

Thanks Cold Case. I will take a look. I appreciate the help.
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

You doubters may want to read some of these reviews.

http://www.pmcycles.com/magreviews.htm
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

so the product has been around for 13+ years just looking at the article page you linked.........

IMO if something WORKED that well it would be more widely accepted/
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Re: My First Post and a Question:

Yeah, the skeptics have easily poked holes in those "subsidized" reviews. There is no defendable evidence that the Fitch works, just marketing spin that carefully interpret what data there is and ignore the inconvenient assessments.
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