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My oil life monitor came on at 3500 miles. I changed the oil at that time and started using Pennzoil Platinum and a Mopar oil filter. I then started changing the oil & filter every 5, 000 miles. I will continue using Pennzoil Platinum and Mopar filters to prevent some high priced Chrysler lawyer from telling me my problem was caused by using filters other than Mopar and now the bill is my responsibility. I invested too much money to take a chance.
On mine it gives a % . Currently at 91% . At what % should I change? It doesn't just have a light?? I was thinking around 50%??
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Re: Wk2 hemi oil change

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On mine it gives a % . Currently at 91% . At what % should I change? It doesn't just have a light?? I was thinking around 50%??
l believe the owner's manual says it will alert you at 10%.

At 50% you are only 1/2 way there, otherwise they would call it 100%.

Under dusty conditions you may want to go sooner.


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Incorrect, "straight mineral oil" refers to what some call "dino oil" the hemi was designed to run with a synthetic blend at MINIMUM. So I believe that's what is referring to. You can also get a single weight synthetic for various purposes. It mentions elsewhere only use 5w20 weight which is a completely different reference.

Not trying to ruffle feathers, since I'm new to the forum.

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Look forward to learning more about my WK2 from you guys though!!
Any post claiming incorrect is guaranteed to itself be incorrect.

Straight mineral oil is as the other poster indicated a straight non-multigrade mineral oil.

I don't know if you can even buy a non-detergent oil any more except possibly for small 2-stroke engines. Even lawn mower oil tends to be detergent these days.

As for the claim that the Hemi requires synthetic, that is also false and contradicted by the owners manual--which indicates you can use synthetic as long as it meets the viscosity and quality from the owners manual.

The reason the MDS uses 5W-20 is because you want a thin oil when the engine starts turning over so you get lubrication, but you want a 20 weight oil at full running temperature.

It used to be that a non-synth oil had trouble staying intact at high loads and temperature when the hot viscosity was only 20, but that was a long time before modern close tolerance high load engines.

I wouldn't even care to bet it is easier to make a synth meet 5W-20 than it is a refined and blended one.

[I still use synth for top offs, and plan to change to full synth at about 3-3.5K anyway.....]

Dunno if this varies regionally, but the synth sold with a Mopar part number at area dealers is Pennzoil Platinum, which is a tad cheaper at the auto parts places.
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Re: Wk2 hemi oil change

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Anyone have any opinions on when to change the break in oil from the factory? Should I juse use the oil life monitor ?? I was thinking I may do it at 3500 miles regardless so I could throw some RP in it and a RP filter...... Thoughts??
The monitor looks like it is going to go near 10K miles even climbing steep mountains in 90+ degrees.

Still, for such a nice engine, I plan on doing what you said--change to pure synth at about 3 to 3.5K.
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Re: Wk2 hemi oil change

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Any post claiming incorrect is guaranteed to itself be incorrect.

Straight mineral oil is as the other poster indicated a straight non-multigrade mineral oil.

I don't know if you can even buy a non-detergent oil any more except possibly for small 2-stroke engines. Even lawn mower oil tends to be detergent these days.

As for the claim that the Hemi requires synthetic, that is also false and contradicted by the owners manual--which indicates you can use synthetic as long as it meets the viscosity and quality from the owners manual.

The reason the MDS uses 5W-20 is because you want a thin oil when the engine starts turning over so you get lubrication, but you want a 20 weight oil at full running temperature.

It used to be that a non-synth oil had trouble staying intact at high loads and temperature when the hot viscosity was only 20, but that was a long time before modern close tolerance high load engines.

I wouldn't even care to bet it is easier to make a synth meet 5W-20 than it is a refined and blended one.

[I still use synth for top offs, and plan to change to full synth at about 3-3.5K anyway.....]

Dunno if this varies regionally, but the synth sold with a Mopar part number at area dealers is Pennzoil Platinum, which is a tad cheaper at the auto parts places.


I didn't imply synth, I said synthetic blend, also, I do feel as though you are incorrect based on the way my owners manual used the reference as "straight mineral oil" otherwise it would say SINGLE WEIGHT OIL.... which is a completely different thing.... And if that's what they meant, then its completely misleading. I may be new to the WK2, but I am not new to hod-rodding and oils.... I can show you in other manuals, "my Trans am for example" where is says DIRECTLY, "Single weight oils", such as "40w" should not be used"

Having said all this, I found part numbers for factory oil, and if you have the SRT, the part number is a fully synthetic oil,

0W-40 (6.4 V8 Hemi)
MOPARŪ API Certified SAE Full Synthetic engine oil
Pennzoil/Mopar p/n 68171066PA, MSRP $10.60/quart

For best performance and maximum protection under all types of operating conditions, the manufacturer only recommends full synthetic engine oils SAE 0W-40 that meet the American Petroleum Institute (API) categories of SM or SM/CF meeting the requirements of Chrysler Group LLC Material Standard MS-10725.

Note: The fast-acting cam phaser system (Variable Valve Timing) on the 6.4L engine was designed to utilize synthetic 0W-40 viscosity oils.

Hemi engine Oil and Filter change directions


the 5.7 Part number doesn't imply a Full synthetic, or even a blend, however, according to the parts list, they do have mopar part numbers for both types. The CRD uses a FULL synthetic also....http://starparts.chrysler.com/starli.../chemicals.pdf

Either way, use what you like, I'll stick with full synthetics..
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On mine it gives a % . Currently at 91% . At what % should I change? It doesn't just have a light?? I was thinking around 50%??
I took mine down to 30% before changing with no indicator. At the rate it was going, I would probably hit 9-10k miles before it would flag I need to change the oil. I reached the point I wanted to get the factory oil out already.
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So what does the 5.7 hemi use and how many quarts. What weight is used??
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Re: Wk2 hemi oil change

7 qts of 5W-20
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Re: Wk2 hemi oil change

Did the first oil change at 2874 miles today. Wanted to get it done around 3k miles. Switched to Mobil 1 5w20 and Mobil 1 filter . Was lucky it was on sale at my local Advance Auto store. 5.1qt jug for $32, that included a free Mobil 1 filter! I bought 2 since we need 7qt for the Hemi. The filter was on there pretty tight, lucky I could squeeze both hands in there and finally got it to turn. All pretty easy though, since I have the RRO lift installed. Then finally got the oil life monitor reset, had to look that up.
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Looked at a quart bottle of Mobil 1, 5W20, at a Target in Anniston, Alabama yesterday. I was shocked to see on the back of the container that it was in compliance with Chrysler MS-6395. There were quite a few bottles of 5W20 on the shelf, but only 2 bottles indicating compliance. Do you think all Mobil 1 5W20 is now in compliance?
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Where the heck is the oil life monitor??
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Where the heck is the oil life monitor??
On a 2014 its in the EVIC, the tab with oil pressure,temps I think.
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