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Re: 2014 JGC Diesel Ordering

Thanks All! If I'm reading right, one loses the premium audio, adaptive headlights and Jeep brown leather, with the Overland. but, gains the ability to option the AG2. I'll be pricing out both the Summit and the Overland, and deciding from there.
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Hello! First post. Has anyone ordered the CRD Summit, and had the dealer add the Skid Plate Group, and Front Tow Hooks? Is it even possible? If not, I'll just go for the Overland.

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You can have your dealer add the skid plates after the fact. Tow Hooks would require cutting the front facia.
Yep, that's what I've read on other posts here. But unless the lower facia can be cut and finished properly, not really an acceptable option in my mind. Need to go look at an Overland with the tow hooks to see how it's finished.

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Or, if you want to get REALLY crazy...in a paste-eating stupid kind of way ...you can get the Summit for its little extra goodies and swap out the front fascia. Now of course there are a few hiccups with this--like finding a way to make the fender trim around the wheel well match up, but hey...a first mod

Just FYI, it sounds like a great idea but I wouldn't recommend
This is actually what I've been researching since I really like the Auburn Pearlcoat/Canyon Brown color combo on the Summit, and I want the skid plates & tow hooks. Yes, I want my cake and be able to eat it, too!

As for changing out the front facia to an Overland style, it looks like you'd have to purchase the Overland lower facia (grill), L & R spats on the ends, the body-colored upper facia that forms the front of the wheel wells along with the light assemblies, removable fasteners, and probably some other parts. Add in painting of the upper facia and a ROM estimate puts it somewhere between $1000 - $1500 or so depending upon the painting cost. Not sure I want to do all that, though. Hmmmm...

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Yep, that's what I've read on other posts here. But unless the lower facia can be cut and finished properly, not really an acceptable option in my mind. Need to go look at an Overland with the tow hooks to see how it's finished.

This is actually what I've been researching since I really like the Auburn Pearlcoat/Canyon Brown color combo on the Summit, and I want the skid plates & tow hooks. Yes, I want my cake and be able to eat it, too!

As for changing out the front facia to an Overland style, it looks like you'd have to purchase the Overland lower facia (grill), L & R spats on the ends, the body-colored upper facia that forms the front of the wheel wells along with the light assemblies, removable fasteners, and probably some other parts. Add in painting of the upper facia and a ROM estimate puts it somewhere between $1000 - $1500 or so depending upon the painting cost. Not sure I want to do all that, though. Hmmmm...

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Each of the different Trim Levels has a completely different front end. I have seen people Cut it out and place the hooks (you can get trim bead for this like they use for the aftermarket add on of a factory hitch).

Pretty Hard to beat the Harmon Kardon system and yes I fell in love with the Brown upscale leather in the Summit...

Only problem I have now is my Neighbor just took delivery of the EXACT same Jeep but a Petrol Engine
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Thanks All! If I'm reading right, one loses the premium audio, adaptive headlights and Jeep brown leather, with the Overland. but, gains the ability to option the AG2. I'll be pricing out both the Summit and the Overland, and deciding from there.
Yes, the audio in the Summit is awesome, but in listen to the audio in the Overland, and you won't be disappointed. IMHO I think the Overland color choices are better. The Summit headlights would be nice, but not a deal breaker for me. In the end, get what extra toys you want. I prefer the ruggedness of the Overland. I tow a lot, and don't want to have to pull the plastic cover off and add my hitch every time I tow. I like to leave my hitch on. Either way, you will LOVE your new Jeep.
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Each of the different Trim Levels has a completely different front end. I have seen people Cut it out and place the hooks (you can get trim bead for this like they use for the aftermarket add on of a factory hitch)...
Thanks - that's true, and just leaves making it removable. I wonder if it's as simple as changing out the fasteners - that's what I want to look into. Although I wouldn't be taking it on any hard-core runs (have the ZJ for that), I would like to be able to take it off and know that it won't scrape on washes, ruts, etc. on moderately rated trails.

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...Pretty Hard to beat the Harmon Kardon system and yes I fell in love with the Brown upscale leather in the Summit...

Only problem I have now is my Neighbor just took delivery of the EXACT same Jeep but a Petrol Engine
I was thinking the same thing, and I do want all the other bells and whistles of the Summit. Funny about your neighbor's choice (don't ya just hate that?), but hey, you'll be able to brag about your mileage!

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Yes, the audio in the Summit is awesome, but in listen to the audio in the Overland, and you won't be disappointed. IMHO I think the Overland color choices are better. The Summit headlights would be nice, but not a deal breaker for me. In the end, get what extra toys you want. I prefer the ruggedness of the Overland. I tow a lot, and don't want to have to pull the plastic cover off and add my hitch every time I tow. I like to leave my hitch on. Either way, you will LOVE your new Jeep.
I have to agree with everything you wrote. I've never been much of an audiophile, so don't really demand a lot out of a car sound system. I'm sure the system that comes with Overland will be more than adequate for me. As for the headlights, I'm thinking I won't miss what I've never had. And, must agree on the colors. I like the green!

So, I think you can tell, I'm leaning more towards the Overland, and its options, as the best blend of luxury and off road.

BUT, that 2014 TrailHawk II concept really looks GOOOOD!!! If it's going to be available before the end of the year, I may just wait to see...
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I have to agree with everything you wrote. I've never been much of an audiophile, so don't really demand a lot out of a car sound system. I'm sure the system that comes with Overland will be more than adequate for me. As for the headlights, I'm thinking I won't miss what I've never had. And, must agree on the colors. I like the green!

So, I think you can tell, I'm leaning more towards the Overland, and its options, as the best blend of luxury and off road.

BUT, that 2014 TrailHawk II concept really looks GOOOOD!!! If it's going to be available before the end of the year, I may just wait to see...
Actually the Overland Stereo is still very good in comparison. It is better than the Bose system in the Cadillac Escalade and SRX.

If you like the Jeep Brown, check out the Indigo Blue in the Overland and you must see it in Person. It is an exceptional colour combination that I would have taken had I gone Overland. I have encouraged some dealer clients to get more of that Color in their showrooms and it is a very nice combination. I don't believe the name actually does it justice.
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Actually the Overland Stereo is still very good in comparison. It is better than the Bose system in the Cadillac Escalade and SRX.

If you like the Jeep Brown, check out the Indigo Blue in the Overland and you must see it in Person. It is an exceptional colour combination that I would have taken had I gone Overland. I have encouraged some dealer clients to get more of that Color in their showrooms and it is a very nice combination. I don't believe the name actually does it justice.
That's good to know about the stereo. As I said, I'm not demanding, but I do appreciate a good sound system, if it's there!

As for the interior, I'll make a point of seeing as many of the options as possible. I admit, I had written off Indigo Blue, based solely on its name...
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Actually the Overland Stereo is still very good in comparison. It is better than the Bose system in the Cadillac Escalade and SRX.

If you like the Jeep Brown, check out the Indigo Blue in the Overland and you must see it in Person. It is an exceptional colour combination that I would have taken had I gone Overland. I have encouraged some dealer clients to get more of that Color in their showrooms and it is a very nice combination. I don't believe the name actually does it justice.
One of the things that I thought I would miss was the sound system in the Summit. One can replace all the speakers and amps and make the Overland's sound system better than the Summit. In the Overland I plan on sticking with Alpine but upgrading everything. I was told the speakers in the vehicle are the lowest end Alpines with only the crossovers in the Amps being Alpine. If anyone knows different I would like to hear. Like, if Alpine amps are used what are the model numbers. I have been told, there is only enough in the vehicle that is Alpine for Chrysler to be able to say it's an Alpine system. All my information comes from the Car Stereo place, they have been misinformed before though...
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One of the things that I thought I would miss was the sound system in the Summit. One can replace all the speakers and amps and make the Overland's sound system better than the Summit. In the Overland I plan on sticking with Alpine but upgrading everything. I was told the speakers in the vehicle are the lowest end Alpines with only the crossovers in the Amps being Alpine. If anyone knows different I would like to hear. Like, if Alpine amps are used what are the model numbers. I have been told, there is only enough in the vehicle that is Alpine for Chrysler to be able to say it's an Alpine system. All my information comes from the Car Stereo place, they have been misinformed before though...
I don't think you are far off... I have been part of Pro-Audio for 20 some years now with Friends who have worked at Harmon (someone might see a connection to me doing the radio stuff ).

I say the Alpine is "Good" because I have listened to it at great length in comparision to the two vehicles I listed. I logged a week in the 2014 Escalade just a short time ago and I have the Apline in my Durango as well as numerous JGC I have been in recently.

I believe that the Alpine system is "better" than many premium systems offered in other brands but that is by no means outstanding. I found the Summit set a new bar for "stock" systems and I was very pleased with it but yes, you are completely correct, my Touring Professional counterparts would tell you that you could do better.

The Summit has an outstanding system in the "Stock" market and the Apline system is "pretty good" in the "Stock" arena as well, beating out a few but certainly not the best I have heard.

That is probably a better review and I look at these systems for flatness too. The Summit requires almost no monkeying to make it sound recording original (within reason). One may need to play with the EQ on the Alpin a little.
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I don't think you are far off... I have been part of Pro-Audio for 20 some years now with Friends who have worked at Harmon (someone might see a connection to me doing the radio stuff ).

I say the Alpine is "Good" because I have listened to it at great length in comparision to the two vehicles I listed. I logged a week in the 2014 Escalade just a short time ago and I have the Apline in my Durango as well as numerous JGC I have been in recently.

I believe that the Alpine system is "better" than many premium systems offered in other brands but that is by no means outstanding. I found the Summit set a new bar for "stock" systems and I was very pleased with it but yes, you are completely correct, my Touring Professional counterparts would tell you that you could do better.

The Summit has an outstanding system in the "Stock" market and the Apline system is "pretty good" in the "Stock" arena as well, beating out a few but certainly not the best I have heard.

That is probably a better review and I look at these systems for flatness too. The Summit requires almost no monkeying to make it sound recording original (within reason). One may need to play with the EQ on the Alpin a little.
So, do you think if I upgraded all the amps and the speakers, in the Overland, with higher end Alpine equipment, keeping the head unit, the sound quality would surpass the Summit?
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One more question about the sound system. Are the speakers more firmly attached in a Jeep than a non-offroad Chrysler vehicle because of the Off-Road Shaking?

My biggest concern about an after market system is the quality of the finished work. Broken panels, melted carpet, stripped screw holes, speakers shaking loose; stuff like that. I have seen all these things happen in after market installations.
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