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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

Our 2012 export model CRD didn't come with prewired connections - so I installed a Tekonsha P3 myself in the small cubby in front of the console.
Works proportional and has good diagnostics as well. After 12 months and over 15,000 miles towing I would use the same controller again.
Not all controllers available are proportional and it would pay to check before any installation.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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Thank you for the advice. I've installed these controls before, but my point was at this day and age why wouldn't they have figured out up in Detroit that people who tow trailers also have them with brakes? This will be a dealer installed option before I pick up the 2014 Summit if they want to sell me the vehicle.

Thanks again for the tip,
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I'm giving serious consideration to the CRD. For me, the reason is for the fuel economy, not for the towing capacity. I would most likely never tow anything 7000 lbs. If I was forced to spend another $900 on something I knew I'd never use....I wouldn't be happy. I don't know that it's a fair statement that most people who buy the CRD are going to be towing a ton. To me, it makes sense to have that as an option/dealer installed or aftermarket. Just my 2 cents...
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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I'm giving serious consideration to the CRD. For me, the reason is for the fuel economy, not for the towing capacity. I would most likely never tow anything 7000 lbs. If I was forced to spend another $900 on something I knew I'd never use....I wouldn't be happy. I don't know that it's a fair statement that most people who buy the CRD are going to be towing a ton. To me, it makes sense to have that as an option/dealer installed or aftermarket. Just my 2 cents...
I can speak from experience, you don't need to tow 7000 Pounds, to feel better towing with a diesel. I had a 4500 pound trailer behind my Yukon with a 5.3, switched to the ML320 Bluetec and it felt so much better. No high revs, very calm and relaxing..... Ran out an bought a 7000 Pound (loaded) trailer and I am still thrilled. Waiting for a WK2 CRD as well. I also want the fuel economy as a daily driver but the savings while towing or driving at higher speeds multiply with the diesel.

On the Brake controller, I am a fan of The Prodigy P3 as well... If you want to save a few bucks get the P2, does a similar job just not as nice a display and configuration access. I used it in the Yukon, ML and presently in the Durango. It is better than the Factory add on one which is not Proportional. It does plug right in using the adapter kit specified for the Jeep/Durango as long as you have the trailer package.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

I can't believe this either, not so much about it not being included, but.... I bought a 2014 Summit, 4x4, V8...made it clear that I need to tow at the limit and need a brake controller for my tandem axle cargo trailer.

No problem they say, not only do we have one, but it integrates into your nav system for adjusting the brakes, knowing your connected, battery status etc.

I went to parts to order one.....WRONG, they haven't figured out how to do it yet in the 2014. There is no part and Jeep systems engineering dept. says not now. In addition, they have had a longstanding issue with brake controllers. Apparently, if the vehicle does not have TWO four pin connectors under the dash, you can't use the integrated controller, that they don't have anyway. According to my new mole in the dealership, this has been an issue with RAM trucks and Durangos in the past.

I am so frustrated right now with the lack of knowledge at the dealership. I lit up the sales mgr. and he is working hard to gather info but I am not holding my breath.

So now I am looking into aftermarket ones and there are many that say they will work but I don't want to drill holes and mount some ugly box in this 55k SUV. or have some clown fry the electronics in the vehicle.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

Looks awesome, but I wouldn't want to look at it when not towing. Does it easily dismount without any signs of it?

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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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Ok, but for [what I've been told] $900 if pretty stiff for a wiring cable and hitch adapter. Can it really cost that much more for a factory controller? I really like the variable input to the trailer brakes that my Silverado gives me. I've had other Silverados that I had to install an aftermarket controller and you have to fiddle with the controls to get the brakes right, then the road changes.

As far as the Hemi goes, it's the fuel milage and longevity that I'm looking for. Usually when I retire a vehicle, they come with the hook and haul it away. lolol

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This concerns me. As far as I know, ALL 2014 Summits come with the trailer package...but to be honest the staff at my dealership is clueless. I already bought the car and it has a trailer hitch w/ 4 and 7 pin connector...I have seen it with my own eyes, but there is nothing on the sticker or in the price that indicates I paid anything extra for it. Is it possible they installed a hitch but the vehicle is missing some other component?

It did come with an adapter in the glove box that says, use this when installing your brake controller. Why is towing shit always a pain in the ass?
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:26 AM
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

I'm using the DirectLink brake controller that is pricey at $350, but it ties into the CPU of the GC and works better than anything I've used in the last 20 years. It is proportional. I'm towing a 25' Airstream and on the maiden voyage, combined weight was 12,180 pounds. No problems at all. I think that the recommended CGVWR is about 14,000 pounds.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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I'm using the DirectLink brake controller that is pricey at $350, but it ties into the CPU of the GC and works better than anything I've used in the last 20 years. It is proportional. I'm towing a 25' Airstream and on the maiden voyage, combined weight was 12,180 pounds. No problems at all. I think that the recommended CGVWR is about 14,000 pounds.
Very cool, I've been looking at Airstreams, in fact I bought the GC with a future Airstream purchase in mind. Are they worth the price? Could a single guy and a dog live on one for months at a time? I have a fantasy of renting both of my houses and just traveling around following the good weather for a while. Some camp sites and RV parks have amazing settings.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

At least going back to 1998 (my earliest experience with Chrysler SUVs) Chrysler has never included a brake controller in the towing package.

I don't know what the $900 line item is; is this a 4x4? 4x4 Summits come with Trailer Tow IV standard.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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At least going back to 1998 (my earliest experience with Chrysler SUVs) Chrysler has never included a brake controller in the towing package.

I don't know what the $900 line item is; is this a 4x4? 4x4 Summits come with Trailer Tow IV standard.
This is my understanding as well...I have the same, no line item on the window sticker for the tow package, yet i have it. I must say though that the sales reps don't all know the product very well. I had to show mine that the hitch was hidden behind the bumper colored cover. LOL

I was also told that the mopar integrated brake controller would work, but apparently it does not. i think i am going with the direclink one. Has anyone used the Direclink NE? an extra 50 bucks so it can communicate with the uconnect network? I'm gonna call them on monday and see what this does.
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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

I have P3 sitting on the counter waiting to go into the '07 WK for pony-pulling duty. As I read it, the P3 uses its internal accelerometer to provide proportional braking.

as far as eedjit salespeople, I've seen both ends of the salesperson range. Back in the spring, arranged a test drive of a '14 GC Limited 5.7L at Northampton CJDR. The salesperson knew literally nothing. Well, that's not quite true; he knew that the "eco" button meant "economy mode".

A month later, took a V6 overland (with the interior I was thinking about) out for a test drive at Brown CJDR in Greenfield (where I had bought my '07). The sales guy ("Carl") said "do you just want to take it for a ride, or do you want me to go through the vehicle with you before you go?" .. I said "go ahead and do the dog and pony show" ..
Which was good, because he pointed out things I did not know, and my wife was there and she got to see everything there was to see..
"so here's the keys, we close at 5 so be back before then."

You can guess who got my check.

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Re: 2014 Summit with trailering package & no brake controler?

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I have P3 sitting on the counter waiting to go into the '07 WK for pony-pulling duty. As I read it, the P3 uses its internal accelerometer to provide proportional braking.

as far as eedjit salespeople, I've seen both ends of the salesperson range. Back in the spring, arranged a test drive of a '14 GC Limited 5.7L at Northampton CJDR. The salesperson knew literally nothing. Well, that's not quite true; he knew that the "eco" button meant "economy mode".

A month later, took a V6 overland (with the interior I was thinking about) out for a test drive at Brown CJDR in Greenfield (where I had bought my '07). The sales guy ("Carl") said "do you just want to take it for a ride, or do you want me to go through the vehicle with you before you go?" .. I said "go ahead and do the dog and pony show" ..
Which was good, because he pointed out things I did not know, and my wife was there and she got to see everything there was to see..
"so here's the keys, we close at 5 so be back before then."

You can guess who got my check.

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Nice post. My money's on Carl getting your check. Carl sounds like the kind of rep I would be. I started selling computers back when the Apple II was still current. I had to know every single thing about all the products and most of the s/w as well. I just couldn't be comfortable selling to anyone without knowing my product.

My rep was just one of those that didn't care too much. He would answer yes to anything...so while I was waiting for the paperwork and stuff, I said, let's take out that Challenger with the 490+ HP OK? He said Yes. LOL

BTW, what's a P3? Is that a brake controller?
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