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Old 05-01-2012, 08:01 PM
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Hey there! My dealer just called with my E number! He also checked online to see if there's any progress. Number not showing anything as yet, apparently due to the build not having started, but he did re-affirm that Jeep's advice was 8 weeks from ordering and he's not aware of any deviation.

Just thought I'd share with you some info that my dealer gave me in relation to the cost of these new fangdangled batteries. While I know new technology costs, I was knocked flat to learn that a new battery with installation is $600! He did mention it wouldn't need to be a Jeep battery, but I think I'll leave that one for now and focus on an isolator arrangement. He's looking into this with their auto-elecs as he needs to have a chat with them about the AV switch to allow me to swap between the reversing camera on the Jeep and the one on the van. Here's hoping this is do-able...
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:09 PM
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Thanks, Mendo. I've ordered the Laredo with towing kit, front parking sensor, sat nav, window tint and paint/interior protection. Chatting with the dealers leads to me believe these items will be handled here in Aust by the dealer who is part of the Stillwell Group (perhaps that's why they use the Hayman Reese towbar and not Mopar?). Would this be the norm, or would these items normally be added at the Jeep factory before leaving the US?

PS. Think I need to work on my patience...I don't know how anyone could wait 4 to 6 months for their new vehicle! It feels like I've been watching paint dry (a new form of torture) and I still have 7 weeks to wait!
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Hi Wendy,
You are on the right track with getting information and sorting the good stuff out from that.
The AGM battery under the seat in the WK2, or away from the engine bay is very much the practice these days - there is major advantage in the extra life obtained by being away from excessive heat.
There are plenty of new Jeeps now in Australia fitted out just the way you want, although some have experienced less than positive results with their dealers.
For mine - I fitted I fitted a Piranha battery isolator directly to the main battery, then took all my feeds to aux items from the switched side - feed to DC/DC charger for 2nd battery that supplies the Engel, Anderson plug feed to the van, via fuses to UHF, also via a 30a circuit breaker to the Tekonsha P3 brake controller mounted in the front cubby. Any other items I add will also come from spare fuses available from the isolated supply. It all tucks down beside the main battery, on a board on a heavy lead.
This keeps all my added electrical items away from the Jeep system and provides protection to the main battery. It all works without me remembering to switch or plug, and based on our 5500k last trip I would do exactly the same again.
There are other ways to do the same job, however any good autoelec should be able to advise.
Just ensure they use quality components and suitable size cable. Doing it right won't be cheap.

Ps - we waited 6 moths for ours.........
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Thanks, John. Even to my novice mind, that layout makes sense. Will keep a copy of that info and talk to a few auto-elecs before I head into no-woman's land!

Appreciate your thoughts...but seriously hoping I'm not waiting anywhere near the same length of time as you did! Otherwise I'm in a spot of bother as my house has sold and I certainly can't tow my van with my current car! Here's hoping... W.
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

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Hi Wendy,
You are on the right track with getting information and sorting the good stuff out from that.
The AGM battery under the seat in the WK2, or away from the engine bay is very much the practice these days - there is major advantage in the extra life obtained by being away from excessive heat.
There are plenty of new Jeeps now in Australia fitted out just the way you want, although some have experienced less than positive results with their dealers.
For mine - I fitted I fitted a Piranha battery isolator directly to the main battery, then took all my feeds to aux items from the switched side - feed to DC/DC charger for 2nd battery that supplies the Engel, Anderson plug feed to the van, via fuses to UHF, also via a 30a circuit breaker to the Tekonsha P3 brake controller mounted in the front cubby. Any other items I add will also come from spare fuses available from the isolated supply. It all tucks down beside the main battery, on a board on a heavy lead.
This keeps all my added electrical items away from the Jeep system and provides protection to the main battery. It all works without me remembering to switch or plug, and based on our 5500k last trip I would do exactly the same again.
There are other ways to do the same job, however any good autoelec should be able to advise.
Just ensure they use quality components and suitable size cable. Doing it right won't be cheap.

Ps - we waited 6 moths for ours.........
John I read your post with interest, I am also waiting on my new GC. My current 4x4 has a duel battery system, very handy with a van. Were did you put your second battery?

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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Hi Wendy,
I'm based in Aus and waiting for my Laredo as well. My research indicates a fixed second battery is not practical without some possibly serious mods. However there are options available in Aus that I'm sure something similar would be available near your locality. Have a look at this website.

http://www.australiandirect.com.au/b...system/BAHC105
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What a clever system, Thommo! Will keep that one in mind. Cheers, W.
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John I read your post with interest, I am also waiting on my new GC. My current 4x4 has a duel battery system, very handy with a van. Were did you put your second battery?

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I made up a slide in module on a board that fits neatly in the back.
The 12v Engel fridge is to one side on slides and there is room for the second battery in a box just behind that, looked after by a DC/DC charger. Beside the fridge there is a narrow drawer the full depth of the compartment, then the table and camping chairs are stood on edge beside that.
I had a drawer module in all our Patrols and just got to it with an angle grinder to suit the Jeep.
Access to the spare is the big issue and I solved that by moving it to the drawbar of our off road van. This gave even more storage under the module and allowed me to fix the module in place with a support bracket under and bolted to the 14mm spare tyre fixing.
The 30a DC/DC charger is removable by Anderson plugs and I can move it to the van and charge the van batteries when free camping if inclement weather shuts down the solar panels. Using the DC charger with selectable charging regime means I don't have to worry about mixing battery types in my system (although they are all AGM).
All worked fine in the last month away and I've now got it all pulled apart again to cover with carpet and make pretty.
I've attached a couple of photos from way back when I first test assembled the stuff to fit it all in.
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Wendy,
Looks like John has answered your question about the battery isolator, and he has more experience with such a system than me.

I hope your wait is "only" 8 weeks or less. I had one of those five month waits and it certainly was hell. But still worth it!
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Hey, John, that's a really nifty setup! I'm awfully glad I asked the question - I now have several options to consider, which puts my mind at ease. Thanks so much guys!

Groan, Cherodude, don't remind me! I'm in a pickle if I don't receive my gorgeous JGC within the 8-wk timeframe. If you see a female eyeing your JGC when you're out driving, it's likely me! ...and I'll be turning a lovely shade of green! Maybe this is someone's way of teaching me patience?!

Cheers guys! W.
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Re: Battery capabilities for caravanning

Wendy, If you want to really know when your car might arrive, ask the Dealer for the ORDER Number. It looks something like E123456.
If you get that, you can track the car and get a buildsheet for it my becoming a contributing member of this forum.
Worthwhile.
In regard to the battery, I doubt if you would need an additional one in the Jeep. Better off looking at installing 3 batteries, and solar in the Van.
The 21ft Jayco is a fine van. According to their catalogue, it can weigh between 2130-2290 Kg. depending on which version. The Jeep should have no probs. towing it
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Thanks allypally. It's been a while since I looked at the catalogue, but I think that weight is when the van is unloaded. Add 400kg load plus 200kg for the two slide-outs (I added that to the base model, which didn't have any slide-outs) and I'm up to 2.8 tonne fully loaded. I have added an extra battery for the solar, so there are two batteries in the van, but I'm not really sure how it all works as I haven't had any experience with solar previously. I've had some caravan dealers tell me solar won't run the fridge, while others told me it will run everything. I figured the truth is somewhere in the middle, so opted for solar and asked for a second battery to store additional charge, but as I said I'm not entirely sure how it will operate.

I do now have the order number (E5698894). Dealer checked online, but said nothing showed up as yet, which is likely because build hasn't started. I do recall reading one of the posts that indicated I could track progress - just need to work out how to do that and what the cost is, but figure it would be worth it for peace of mind...a job for the weekend though a I need to get my nose back to the grindstone and get some more work done before I hit the hay. Thanks for your help allypally, W.
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